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      Two weeks til my planned 2nd cycle begins. Here is where it stands now:

      Enth: wks 1-2 @ 1000mg/week
      Enth: wks 3-10 @ 500mg/week
      Deca: wks 1-8 @ 400mg/week
      Dbol: wks 1-4 @ 40mg/week
      Prop: wks 11-13 @ 75mg/day

      Ldex: weeks 1-13 @ 0.25mg/day
      nolva: wks 1-13 @ 10mg/day
      nolva: wks 14-15 @ 20mg/day
      clomid (post): wks 15-17 (?) first day @ 300mg, days 2-14 @ 100mg, days 15-24 @ 50mg/day

      Comments: Im also heavily thinking about adding in Tren at 75mg/day from wks 8-13. I know this is a lot.....and maybe someone can convince to back off on the tren and even the prop.....

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      drop the prop add the tren but so its not ridic go eod on the tren

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      I'd add tren in place of deca, then you have a very nice cycle bro...Good luck.....

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      i think a 12 week enan/deca cycle would be better and run the d's like you have now.

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      id only make 1 change
      run the deca 10 wks with the test
      and i dont think the tren and prop is too much actually
      id run them both starting at wk 8

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      Wow Im amazed at how things have changed...There was a time when we didnt suggest begginers using tren and i still dont...Drop the tren and what is the prop for?Avoiding the crash?Do you know or you just though youd put it there?I know guys who use it at the end to fill the void between last injection and PCT...I like to use winny for that same reason have it in my system while the others are clearing to avoid the crash you can sometimes experience...

      Wait a few more cycles till you know your body better to use the tren...When you do take it with some eq not deca...

      Keep this in mind....The less you need to grow the better...Keep your cycles symple and youl do fine...

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      For my second cycle, I'm going to run enth and dbol only.

      My body responds really well to dbol. I'm doing sust on my first cycle, and it seems enth is better suited for BB's.

      There are a lot of people who advocate a simpler cycle philosophy, and that's the approach I'm going to take. If I'm not satisfied, I can always look forward to my next cycle.
      I know nothing about any of this insanity... it's just a fun game to me.

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      Originally posted by bronzebeefcake
      Drop the tren and what is the prop for?Avoiding the crash?Do you know or you just though youd put it there?I know guys who use it at the end to fill the void between last injection and PCT...I like to use winny for that same reason have it in my system while the others are clearing to avoid the crash you can sometimes experience...

      for that reason. I do agree that more stacked doesnt necessary mean more gains. I would rather use an ester at the end of my cycle that allows PCT to be utilized a few days after last injection, rather than a 2-3 weeks for the enth. (deca wouldnt be an issue b/c im stopping that after week 8)
      This is what i want to hear BB. Things to consider before adding anything (if anything) to my current stack.
      Btw, i have the enth, dbol, and deca here and ready to go, and for that reason, will not adjust those three compounds, to replace it with another.
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      Extend the the Dbol to 6 weeks.

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      Originally posted by DiamondBling
      Extend the the Dbol to 6 weeks.
      witht he dbol already in place, you guys thinking frontloading the enth is necessary?
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      no need to frontload with enanthate, the d-bols also will give u the pump in the beginning and just as you stop taking them the enanthate will start kicking in

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      Agreed no need to frontload if using Dbol to kickstart...Go with the prop at the end and start PCT 2 days after that..100mg EOd will suffice...

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      Ive decided. Thanx for your inputs fellas. Here it is..... (i giggle everytime i think about starting )

      Enth: 500mg wks 1-12
      Deca: 400mg wks 1-8 (only the eight weeks with deca b/c thats all i have)
      Dbol: 40mg wks 1-6
      Prop: 100mg/EOD wks 10-14
      Clomid (PCT): 3 days after last prop injection
      300mg day one, 100mg days 2-14, 50mg days 15-24
      Nolva: 10mg/day throughout entire cycle (bumping it up to 20-40mg post cycle)
      ldex: 0.25mg/day for the entire cycle

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