My Second cycle thoughts (critique please!)

[DerCribben]

Hey, I just finished a 8 wk 75mg ed Tren/Fina and 100mg Winny ed cycle. I'm beginning Clomid as soon as it comes but I'm doing Nolvadex right now till then.

I am 6'1", 292lbs, 26%bf and 29 yrs old (for another few months at least)

I am taking Six weeks off or maybe a full Eight and really working on cardio and cutting down even further on BF% over the next Two months. The cycle I will be hopefully starting after the Two months will be as follows if I can afford to go all out.

Wk 1-2

1000 mg EQ weekly
1000 mg Test Enan weekly
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 3 - 8

400 mg EQ weekly
400mg Test Enan weekly
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 9 - 16

400 mg EQ weekly
100mg Winny ED
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 14 - 16

500 IU HCG ED

Wks 17 - 19

.25 mg Liquidex ED

400mg Clomid D 1-2
200mg Clomid D 3-8
100mg Clomid D 9-18
50mg Clomid D 19-21

Off for 16 Wks (at least)

I put on weight pretty easily so I'm focused on strength and density/hardness/muscle quality mostly, and I still need to take off at least another 12% bf or so in the next year (I also want to stay between 250 and 280 lbs). So all of my cycles in that time will have cutting or bulking w/hardness in mind.

Critique at will

[jackdaddy]

Hey DC-

Curious as to why you're frontloading the test?
Overall I think the cycle looks pretty good, but I'd be concerned with 100 mg of Winny every day. Did you have any problems running that much during your last cycle? Hopefully you were hitting up the milk thistle and ALA pretty good.

Just my humble opinion, but here's how I'd run the cycle. Take it for what it's worth!

Wk 1-2

800 mg EQ weekly
600 mg EQ weekly
.5 mg Liquidex ED


Wks 3 - 8

400 mg EQ weekly
600 mg Test Enan weekly
.5 mg Liquidex ED


Wks 9 - 16

400 mg EQ weekly
50 -75 mg Winny ED
.5 mg Liquidex ED


Wks 14 - 16

500 IU HCG ED

Wks 17 - 19

.25 mg Liquidex ED

400mg Clomid D 1-2
200mg Clomid D 3-8
100mg Clomid D 9-18
50mg Clomid D 19-21


Good luck with the cycle bro!

[DerCribben]

As far as the Winny goes, two of my Liver enzymes came back after Six weeks somewhat elevated but every other enzyme came back normal as did liver functioning (I also had walking pneumonia at the time so I'm not entirely convinced that it wasn't why they were too high)

I would consider lessening the frontloading a little but I want to start getting results from the Test as soon as possible but I also don't want to gain a lot of water so I don't want to do any more than 400 mgs wkly for the rest of the cycle. Mostly the intentions of this cycle is to get the strength and quality muscle mass from the EQ, some size gains from the test and the water shedding and cutting properties from the Winny.

What do you think about 800/800 test/eq wkly during the frontloading phase?

[Josh]

i think at least 500mg of test is in order.. some clen and t3 and youll be good to go... -J

[DerCribben]

Originally posted by Josh
i think at least 500mg of test is in order.. some clen and t3 and youll be good to go... -J

Right now I alternate Clen 2wks and ECA 2wks, I heard that T3 is one of those things that you can permanently screw up your bodies ability to create it on your own so I definitely need to read more about it before I use it (and then I need to find some).

You wouldn't happen to know where I could find some good solid information on proper use of T3 would you?

[DerCribben]

So, now I have my 2nd cycle as:

Wk 1-2

1000 mg Equipose weekly
800 mg Test Enanthate weekly
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 3 - 8

400 mg EQ weekly
500mg Test Enan weekly
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 9 - 16

400 mg EQ weekly
100mg Winny ED
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 14 - 16

500 IU HCG ED

Wks 17 - 19

.25 mg Liquidex ED

400mg Clomid D 1-2
200mg Clomid D 3-8
100mg Clomid D 9-18
50mg Clomid D 19-21

Off for 16 Wks (at least)

I will be taking R-ALA and Milk Thistle as well as alternating 2wks Clen/2wks ECA the whole cycle. I am now also looking in to adding T3 to the later part of the cycle upon aquiring more information on proper T3 dosing and precautions.

This is gonna be an expensive cycle. But, with the off time included pretty much this nails down the next year as far as gear goes.

[DerCribben]

This is the last and final revision to my #2 cycle now I'm on to the diet planning phase!!

Wk 1-2

1000 mg Equipose weekly
800 mg Test Enanthate weekly
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 3 - 8

600 mg EQ weekly
500mg Test Enan weekly
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 9 - 16

600 mg EQ weekly
100mg Winny ED
100mg Test Propionate EOD
.5 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 17 - 19

500 IU HCG ED
.25 mg Liquidex ED

Wks 20 - 22

.25 mg Liquidex ED

400mg Clomid D 1-2
200mg Clomid D 3-8
100mg Clomid D 9-18
50mg Clomid D 19-21

Off for 16 Wks (at least)

I'll be doing R-ALA and Milk thistle the whole cycle, as well as alternating between Clen and ECA every Two weeks.