Tweetnope, same dose through out the cycle....
TweetI am wondering if anyone still practices the art of tapering? I know that this was the popular technique back in the day, and it was believed to work. Now it is believed that clomid, nolva, etc. work. I have tapered and had just as good results as when I used clomid and nolva. Just wondering if anyone still does this?
Tweetnope, same dose through out the cycle....
TweetI tried it last cycle but didnt feel crap. I would stick to the nolvadex and clomid after the cycle
TweetYour natural test production isn't going to gradually kick back in because you gradually taper your dosages down. Your test levels will be below normal before your system trys to level out. They used to believe that you peak out on dosages around mid cycle and taper down to the end. After the peak, the body would pickup that it's test levels are dropping, so it would start generating natural test production gradually with the taper. I am definitely no Dr. but from what I understand, as long as your body is receiving steroids, no matter how high your levels were mid cycle and how low you think they are once you've tapered all the way down, your body's test levels are still above normal, and won't start natural test production without help or a prolonged period of time in which your test levels fall well below normal. I'm sure there are bros that don't agree with that, but to me that makes the perfect sense. I've tryed both ways also, and I definitely feel better with post cycle therapy. Like they say though. "Everybody's different"
Tweetim a strong believer in tappering out certain steriods..
like i usually would drop the strong adrogens towards the end to help with severity of shut down.. so things like tren deca would be cut out and would finish with my base dose of test and maybe an oral like winstrol.
just dropping something like tren then hitting up clomid a few days later just seems too much for my body... but if your using test doses in the 700-1000mg+ then dropping things wouldnt make too much sense... but i usually only use test at 250mg ew..
i have asked around about this.. seems to be personal preference!
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TweetIf you are taking in test, then you will be supressing the natural test...doesnt matter at what amount your takeing the test (assumeing the normal tapper is from say, 600mg/week to 200mg/week) I have used the tapper, I have used nothing at all...I have used the herbal supps and I have used all the other suport therapy drugs...the tapper for me works about as good as just quiting without anything. The herbals like trib work ok in higher doses, and clomid, arimidex, nolva, HCG all work well, like they are suposed to. I still dont lose much of anything just coming off without anything though...
TweetI've tried tapering in the past. It does'nt work. Use the same through out your cycle then hit the HCG, Clomid, etc...
TweetThe big advantage I see in tapering is perhaps easing the psyco/physiological suddeness of stopping all at once. Its a big shock mentally and physically beyond what it does or doesn't do to your testicles.
AAS does a hell of a lot more in your system then just repress natural gonadal function.
There are mental and other physiological issues as well.
I think a taper towards the end might be a good idea for these reasons, not necessarily just to ease the shrunken nuts deal...
That may go against the theory du jour, but it seems sensible to me... Most doctors will titrate (taper) the dose of ANY medication that has intense mental and physical effects at the end of the drug therapy.
I'd even go so far as to say extend your cycle a few weeks to do your taper...
I'm also curious if somebody has any proof that gonadal repression is an all or nothing phenomenon...
TweetI would also like to see that my friend!..
you always here things like "DECA shuts you down hard.." or this or that.. but i think we all can concer that recovery from 500mg test.. is not the same as recovering from 1000mg test/400mg deca/50tren ed ect.. unless you more experienced users disagree??
i personally will stick with weeding out certain highly androgenic AS...
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