Advice Needed For My First Gear!!!!!! Pic Of Me Included

[SuperDave]

TweetI'm relatively new to this forum, so let me introduce myself.

I'm currently weighing 218 pounds at 6'4, bodyfat% is approximately 7%.

https://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/...15&uid=1146735

My pictures are the ones that say Dave or David.

I consider myself to be very serious. Eating and training as the pro's do but i'm (still) natural. After having trained a few years ago i have picked it up again, recovering from a 11-month during injury(biceps-tendon).

Now after 3 months of serious training and eating, i've decided to use steroids. I've read all the theoretic literature but i have no 'real' knowledge. If you do have real knowledge i would appreciate your advice about what to use as my first cycle.

My desire from this cycle is an increasement in muscle-mass. I prefer to use my diet to look not smooth over chemical substances that make me look sharp. I also prefer intra-musculair over oral intake.

Thanks and Cool Forum!

S.D.

[rado]

Tweet1st of all welcome to FG....you have a good base for some good mass from a cycle...but let me be the 1st to say that you should stick around and use the "Search" function, plenty of info on here and very well put...a good beg. first cycle would/could look like this:


Test-500mg a week-1-10 maybe 12
Eq-400mg a week same as above
D-bol-35mg a week for wks 1-4 maybe 5wks
also have some clomid for post and nolva on hand in case of gyno.


good luck

[rado]

Tweethttps://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/s...threadid=18555


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check out these threads, some good basic info

[hongkongguy]

Tweetwelcome

[crombie09]

TweetWhats up, welcome to fg. You will find a lot of really good info here. You have a really good base already and as should do well for you, good luck. -crombie09

[SuperDave]

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Originally posted by rado
1st of all welcome to FG....you have a good base for some good mass from a cycle...but let me be the 1st to say that you should stick around and use the "Search" function, plenty of info on here and very well put...a good beg. first cycle would/could look like this:


Test-500mg a week-1-10 maybe 12
Eq-400mg a week same as above
D-bol-35mg a week for wks 1-4 maybe 5wks
also have some clomid for post and nolva on hand in case of gyno.


good luck

Rado,

Thanx for your reply, you've told me what some other experts also told me. test, equi and dianabol. Can i assume that with test you mean sust?

Can yo tell me why is so good for a first cycle? i mean why dont i just start with the usual deca stromba combi? let me know what you think.

thx!

[rado]

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Originally posted by SuperDave
Rado,

Thanx for your reply, you've told me what some other experts also told me. test, equi and dianabol. Can i assume that with test you mean sust?

Can yo tell me why is so good for a first cycle? i mean why dont i just start with the usual deca stromba combi? let me know what you think.

thx!

test is test, whether it's sust, enanthate, cyp, etc...sust is a good test becuase it has a few different one's combined..deca will shut you down hard, that's why it's good to do test with any cycle you do so that your test levels stay steady

[jipped genes]

Tweetwelcome to FG bro.

[aSCeNDeD-aSiaN]

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Originally posted by SuperDave
I'm relatively new to this forum, so let me introduce myself.

I'm currently weighing 218 pounds at 6'4, bodyfat% is approximately 7%.

https://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/...15&uid=1146735

My pictures are the ones that say Dave or David.

I consider myself to be very serious. Eating and training as the pro's do but i'm (still) natural. After having trained a few years ago i have picked it up again, recovering from a 11-month during injury(biceps-tendon).

Now after 3 months of serious training and eating, i've decided to use steroids. I've read all the theoretic literature but i have no 'real' knowledge. If you do have real knowledge i would appreciate your advice about what to use as my first cycle.

My desire from this cycle is an increasement in muscle-mass. I prefer to use my diet to look not smooth over chemical substances that make me look sharp. I also prefer intra-musculair over oral intake.

Thanks and Cool Forum!

S.D.

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[CJWolf]

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[SuperDave]

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Originally posted by motogear
For a first cycle, all you need is test at 400-500mg/wk for 10 weeks. You should make great gains off of that. I don't really think you need anything else for a first cycle.

Yhx for your reply,

But i keep hearing that equipose has to go with it for a synergistic effect. I heard that you make the most gains with your first cycle. So shouldn't i try to gain the maximum in my first cycle and then stay clean for a longer while, instead of using less steroids but more frequent? More frequent seems more dangerous to me...

Ok let me know what you think, i'm about to eat twelve egg whites, see ya

SuperDave

[SuperDave]

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Originally posted by rado
test is tes, whether it's sust, enanthate, cyp, etc...sust is a good test becuase it has a few different one's combined..deca will shut you down hard, that's why it's good to do test with any cycle you do so that your test levels stay steady

OK, your deca (non) argument makes sense to me. Cool. As you might understand i find it very important that i understand what i'm doing when using as.

Are you sure that i wont make the same gains with less a.s, since it is my first cycle and all? Asking this cuz i still have the feeling that this cycle is heavy, or i'm a *****ing??

Ok, let me know if you will, im gonna eat my 12 egg whites and hit the sack.

[pigmeat]

Tweetkeep it simple for first cycle bro. Every cycle you need a little more to grow, so start off small. 500 mg test enan will be easy and should be all you need to put on serious mass!

[spidey]

TweetI have to second (or third) that. First cycle you are going to grow no matter what you take. Test is among the cheapest and most effective AS there is. Go with the 400 to 500 mg test enan or test cyp a week. You can do the sus but I hear it is significantly more painful to inject and you will get similar results from using just a single ester. Sounds like you already know how to eat and train so you should be very pleased. There is absolutely no need to take a bunch of stuff together on your first cycle; one maybe two compounds is all I would recommend. If you go with more than one AS, keep the combined total gear under about 700 to 750 mg ew. No need to expose yourself to the increased risk of sides by taking more when you will grow just fine that.

A few things to remember:

1) BLOODWORK: This is very important and something many newbies screw up on. Get some bloodwork done before starting your cycle to establish baseline values for liver enzymes and kidney function (a lipid profile and test level would be good too if you can afford). You should repeat those tests midway through your cycle and again at the end of your cycle. Compare those values with your baseline to detect any agregious changes. Of course, don't bother to measure your test levels in the middle or at the end of your test cycle.

2) ANTESTROGENS: get a few months worth of nolvadex and keep it on hand in case gyno begins to rear it's ugly head. You may not need it but if you do, waiting on it in the mail while gyno further develops is exaspirating to say the least. You could get some liquidex and run it at 0.5 mg ed or eod but I really don't think it will be necessary with only 400 to 500 mg test a week and liquidex will impact your lipid profile negatively.

How about:

cycle 1: test enan (500 mg ew) for 10 weeks. Followed by clomid/nolvadex therapy for two weeks

cycle2: test enan (400 mg ew) + eq (350 mg ew) for 10 weeks. Followed by clomid/nolva therapy for 2 weeks

cycle3: test enan (400 mg ew) + fina (50 mg ed) for 8 weeks. Followed by clomid/nolva therapy for 2 weeks.

[lxorl]

TweetI agree with rado... read up for another month or so before you jump in.

It all depends on your goals.... But test and EQ would be good, you could kick start it with some dbol.... and yes have nolva handy incase gyno pops up... im dealing with that now. and clomid for after....

Test alone for a first cycle would be good, but if you can afford it run the eq at 400-600/week for 12 as well.