bad injections...whats going on !!!

[thegame01]

Tweethey guy's me and my bro are on our second cycle .first cycle was 300 of cyp and deca .our second one is eq and cyp at 400 and 500 respectively .We have never had a problem in the first cycle with injections.

the last few shots havent went well with him .It hurts him more then usual and he gets a lump on his ass.Also the oil(lump) slowly disipates and he can feel the oil in his shorts ..he is wasting his shots !!!

I know the next day everything is fine but i was just wondering what causes that and can he be doing harm in there .He always has a drop that comes out usually but not like this .

i do his shots and go in all the way with 1.5 inch 22g pins in the upper outside quadrant. i inject slowly etc etc .I beleive i do the injections very well .I am a little anal when it comes to that shit so what else can it be .Can an ass be too big to inject in and it doesnt goin the muscle deep enough or what .

i need to find out whats happening , please someone gotta know
Thanks
GZ

[AustinTX]

Tweettry 25g pins, also try a z-track injection to prevent the leakage....

and by slow do you mean 1cc/minute?

[badboy030383]

Tweetyah try 25gauge pins

[thegame01]

Tweetno not that slow bro .I would say about 10 sec for about 1 cc at the most .We always have used this speed

Whats a z track ??
and whats a 25 g needle going to do .wont it make it harder to inject ??

Thanks
GZ

[jack hust]

Tweettell him to stop flexing his muscle and relax that could be his prob

[thegame01]

TweetThanks JH but we usually lift the leg of the same injection side as to take the pressure off in order not to flex .our ass are soft when injecting

Keep em coming guy's i will eventually find out and be able to help the next guy this happens to i hope
thanks
GZ

[Scottexercise]

TweetChange location, go upper body for a while let the hip heal up and clean out. I think its harder to dissipate when you keep hitting that scare tissue. Yes those lumps will go away w/time. I think dude was trying to say w/smaller bore needle less leakage. I use 18g and no leakage, put a cotton ball on there w/alcohol and some pressure, you won't have any probs. I think you will like that cyc, I'm doing pretty close the same 750mg sust p/wk
500mg enan p/wk
400mg bold p/wk
w/a little d-bol for kicks lovin it

[tyron14]

Tweet

Originally posted by thegame01

Whats a z track ??
and whats a 25 g needle going to do .wont it make it harder to inject ??

Thanks
GZ

A "Z track" is you insert the needle at an angle into the skin, turn to another angle after you insert a little more, turn again and finish the insertion. The path of the needle will be like a "Z" after it's pulled out. The misaligned track prevents the drug from leaking out. It's often used when the drug being injected has an objectionable odor to the patient. Or you can pull the skin to one side and insert the needle straight. The whole idea is to make the hole misaligned after you pull out the needle.

25 g will take longer to inject, but the hole is smaller and less prone to leak.

[thegame01]

TweetThanks guy's but i dont think he needs a z track.i am not talking regular leakage here .The lump is the size of a golf ball . not visible but he can feel .It then leaks out throughout the day because the muscle has not absorbed it(hence the lump) why is his body not absorbing any of it .the damn stuff leaks out into hius shorts .

The shot is painful as soon as it's in all the way then after injecting about 1 ml i had to pull out due to pain and re injected beside a few inches and the rest went in ok.This doesnt make sense to me

Gotta be some one with medical back ground with a theory

i want to keep this at the top as this is really bothering me .Who wants to throw away $600 away on shots that dont go in
GZ

[AustinTX]

Tweet10 seconds for a CC is too fast; try to spend 30 seconds per CC, and switch to 25g. (especially since you don't seem to be using as many injection sites as you should...)

tyron14 is insane in his first description of ztrack you don't go moving the needle around after/while you're inserting it. Pull the skin to the side which will bring the skin, fat, and muscle out of alignment; insert the pin and inject; leave the pin in for a few seconds afterwards; when you remove the pin, there won't be a straight path back out since you slid the layers out of alignment before injecting.

[AustinTX]

Tweetyou need to shoot quads and delts too; more sites if you can.

sounds like he may have an oil embolism/abscess (not infrection, just a bunch of oil in a pocket that isn't being absorbed).
could be caused by injecting before the site is ready for a new one, injecting too fast and causing extra scar tissue to build up around the area, etc...

don't inject in the same place again as long as there is still a lump there too.

[thegame01]

TweetThanks AustinTX.
Thats 1.5 minutes for a 3 cc shot thats a long time bro but will keep it in mind . When we did our 1 ml shot of prop on first cycle it was a cake walk.

Dont worry bro i wasnt about to try that ztrack description of Tyron. I am not crazy ,i just figured it was pointless to reply to that .

We already do the skin trick bro .
The lump is always gone by the time we inject again.It takes about a day or so for the lump to go away .

why is it that i dont have a problem .I have a smaller ass which means less area to play with .
What cause these oil pockets on one person and not another


How many injections in the ass( each cheek) would you do a week ?? how many is too many ?

Thanks bro
Those quad shots are fucken scary
GZ

[AustinTX]

TweetThe general rule is not more than 1 time a week in the same spot. I rotate between 8 spots, plus stomach area for subQ shots, so I hit a spot once every 3 weeks max.

How many times a week are you injecting?

Using a 25g will slow you down too.

No telling why he has a prob and you don't. He could react more to the BA, you may be injecting faster, he may just naturally absorb more slowly, ...

Quads or Delts with 25g 1" are no problem. I even use those for calves. But I'm freaked out about trying bi's/tri's, so I know what you're saying...

[thegame01]

Tweetthanks bro .We are injecting in each cheek about every 3-4 days .
so thats a little much i guess .

He was talking about injecting in his quad.That injection worries me and i told him he was on his own .

Which one would be better delt or quad.I hate the fact of the big nerves in the leg.
And would it be a bad idea to use our 22g 1.5 inch and just go in about 1 inch .does it depend on our size .i am lean at 10% bf and he is about 25% bf .he is 280 lbs and i am 180lbs (yes were brothers lol ) Same size needles lenght wise ????

I am doing some research on these sites as i need to know a little more

Thanks again for all your help bro
Much apreciated
GZ

[AustinTX]

Tweetlooks like you're in Canada; I'd just go to a pharmacy and pick up a box of 25g pins; they're $10 USD online here for 100 pins-only.

delts were hard for me to aspirate (myself) the first few times, but you have that covered I guess. 1" would work there for both of you.

Personally, I'd just use 23g or higher (anywhere), less scar tissue build up, etc. You could just not push the pin all the way in for you, but make sure not to let the depth move when you aspirate and inject. I'd just stick it all the way in for him.