Question. Why bother with D-bol?

[justforfun000]

TweetThe more I see posts repeatedly saying in essence "well, when it's all over you won't keep anything from the d-bol, so you'd be better to do some other things.", the more I wonder why bother?

It's liver toxic, it's a daily split up dose which can be a bit of a pain, and from the sound of things you're bound to be dissapointed when it all melts away after you stop taking it.

Can anyone give me some step by step points as to WHY it should be taken? What permanent benefits will you retain? Will it enhance the other drugs and enable you to keep THEIR gains longer? Is it different when taken with other drugs and therefore possible to retain the gains? Is it just a psychological thing to get you pumped up while you're waiting for the injections to kick in?

Someone please spell it out what the PERMANENT benefits are because I'm starting to wonder why we should bother if in essence, next to nothing will be retained after discontinuation.

Maybe it would be useful for a quick 2 week buffer if you're going on a trip or something & want to impress the local guys or girls with your physique.......

anyhow, fire away. :-)

[jason864]

Tweetwhen u take dbol by itself that is when gains tend to melt away. however when taking with another AS with a longer ester like test eth u will keep the gains you made from dbol an build off them, they just dont melt away when the other test kicks in...

[Billy_Bathgate]

Tweetbecause its a fun drug

[on_a_mission]

TweetIt's increases protein synthesis. While your on dbol your body will be able to metabolize more protein which leads to lean body mass gains. I know quite a few bro who have done dbol only cycles and kept gains so the notion that you will loose all gains made from dbol is a false one.

[Tinfish]

Tweet1) I think it is a great kick starter to a cycle.
2) Cheaper than a donkey show in TJ
3) Nice to have an oral in with your 4 injections per week
4) Throw em in a tic tac bottle and carry em in your pocket.

[bigjim33]

Tweetit isn't a waste, that is a myth. now i don't advocate dbol only cycles but if you ran dbol only with ldex or nolva to keep bloat away and use clomid afterwards....i bet you keep the muscle.....JMO

[rado]

TweetI think this has been anwsered already

[THE JUICE]

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Originally posted by justforfun000
The more I see posts repeatedly saying in essence "well, when it's all over you won't keep anything from the d-bol, so you'd be better to do some other things.", the more I wonder why bother?

It's liver toxic, it's a daily split up dose which can be a bit of a pain, and from the sound of things you're bound to be dissapointed when it all melts away after you stop taking it.

Can anyone give me some step by step points as to WHY it should be taken? What permanent benefits will you retain? Will it enhance the other drugs and enable you to keep THEIR gains longer? Is it different when taken with other drugs and therefore possible to retain the gains? Is it just a psychological thing to get you pumped up while you're waiting for the injections to kick in?

Someone please spell it out what the PERMANENT benefits are because I'm starting to wonder why we should bother if in essence, next to nothing will be retained after discontinuation.

Maybe it would be useful for a quick 2 week buffer if you're going on a trip or something & want to impress the local guys or girls with your physique.......

anyhow, fire away. :-)

give dbol a try and see if its all good, hey I love dbol thats why I use it in every cycle Ive done which I ve done 2 in total and Im using it again next week too.

Alone, u will gain but u will lose it soon. I've done that and its not worth it, its worth it while ur on it but afterwards u feel like shit.
With some test, deca, eq it works better cause u dont have to worry anout losing hsit unless u dont use clomid or hcg.

[justforfun000]

TweetCool. Thanks all. Well I've put on 8 pounds in two weeks, and I'm waiting for the injectables to kick in. At least it looks good. :-)

[Chemical Evolution]

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Originally posted by jason864
when u take dbol by itself that is when gains tend to melt away.

Not so bro! I've done D-bol only and keept my gains. The thing is most folk only run it for 4 wks witch is not enough time for it to act Anabolically. i did 8-10wks and keept nearly all my gains.

[IntensityX]

TweetDbol is the shiat,this will explain it in detail.

Dianabol (17-alpha-methyl-17beta-hydroxil-androsta-l.4dien-3-on) is a new, orally applicable steroid with a great effect on the protein metabolism. The effect of Dianabol promotes the protein synthesis, thus it supports the buildup of protein. This effect mianifests itself in a positive nitrogen balance and an improved well-being. The calcium balance is positively influenced as well: Dianabol promotes the calcium deposits in the bones. Dianabol is indicated in the treatment of all diseases and conditions in which an anabolic(protein-buildup promoting) effect and a generally roborizing (entire organism strengthening) effect can be obtained.


Dianabol is similar to the chemical structure of 17-alpha methytestosterone. Dianabol, therefore, has a very strong anabolic and androgenic effect which manifests itself in an enormous buildup of strength and muscle mass in its users. Dianabol is simply a "mass steroid" which works quickly and reliably. A weight gain of 2 – 4 pounds per week in the first six weeks is normal with Dianabol. The additional body weight consists of a true increase in tissue (hyper-trophy of muscle fibers) and, in particular, in a noticeable retention of fluids. Dianabol aromatizes easily so that it is not a very good drug when one works out for a competition. Excessive water retention and aromatizing can be avoided in most cases by simultaneously taking Nolvadex and Proviron so that some athletes are able to use Dianabol until three to four days before a competition. The dosage spectrum, in particular for bodybuilders, weightlifters and powerlifters is very wide. It ranges from two tablets per day up to twenty or more tablets per day. Accordingly, an effective daily dose for athletes is around 15-40 mg/day. The dosage of Dianabol taken by the athlete should always be coordinated with his individual goals. Steroid novices do not need more than 15-20 mg of Dianabol per day since this dose is sufficient to achieve exceptional results over a period of 8-10 weeks. When the effect begins to slow down in this group after about eight weeks and the athlete wants to continue his treatment, the dosage of Dianabol should not be increased but an injectable steroid such as Deca Durabolin in a dosage of 200 mg/week or Primobolan in a dosage of 200 mg/week should be used in addition to the Dianabol dose; or he may switch to one of the two above mentianed compounds. The use of testosterone is not recommended at this stage as the athlete should leave some free play for later. For those either impatient or more advanced, a stack of Dianabol 20-30mg/day and Deca Durabolin 200-400 mg/day achieves miracles.


In fact, athletes who are not ambitious to compete will make highly satisfying progress with Dianabol. Competing athletes, more advanced athletes, and athletes weighing more than 220 pounds do not need more than 40 mg/day and in very rare cases 50 mg/day. It does not make sense to inerease the number of Dianabol tablets immeasurably since fifteen tablets do not double the effect of seven or eight. Daily dosages of 60 mg+ usually are the result of the athlete's ignorance or his plain despair, since in some athletes, due to the continued improper intake of steroids, nothing seems to be effective any longer. The simultaneous intake of Dianabol and Anadrol is not a good idea since these two compounds have similar effects. The situation can be compared to the intake of ten or more tablets of one of these drugs per day. Those who are more interested in Strength and less in body mass can combine Dianabol with either Anavar or Winstrol tablets. The additional intake of an injectable steroid does, however, clearly show the best results. To build up mass and strength, Sustanon or Testoviron Depot at 250 mg+/week and/or Deca Durabolin 200 at mg+/week are suitable. To prepare for a competition, Dianabol has only limited use since it causes distinct water retention in many athletes and due to its high conversion rate into estrogen it complicates the athlete's fat breakdown. Those of you without this problem or who are able to control it by taking Nolvadex or Proviron, in this phase should use Dianabol together with the proven Parabolan, Winstrol Depot, Masteron, Anavar, etc.


Since Dianabol's half life time is only 3.2-4.5 hours 1 application at least twice a day is necessary to achieve a somewhat even concentration of the substance in the blood. Scientific tests continue to show that on days of intense workout compared to rest days, the half-life time of Dianabol is reduced even further so that an application three times daily appears sensible. Since Dianabol is also 17-alpha alkylated and thus largely protected against a loss in effect, it is recommended that the tablets be taken during meals so that possible gastrointestinal pains can be avoided. On the third day after discontinuing the intake of Dianabol, proof of the substance methandrostenolone (methandienone) in the blood is negative. This means that the tablets are no longer effective. The athlete, however, should not proceed under the assumption that a urine test will be negative since the elimination of the metabolites of the substance methandrostenolone through the urine continues much longer. The maximum substance concentration of Dianabol reaches the blood after 1-3 hours. A simple application of only 10 mg results in a 5-fold inerease in the average testosterone concentration in the male (2). An important reason why Dianabol works well in all athletes is that the endogenous cortisone production is reduced by 50-70%. Thus, Dianabol considerably slows down the rate at which protein is broken down in the muscle cell.


Women should not use Dianabol because, due to its distinet androgenic component, considerable virilization symptoms can occur. There'are, however, several female bodybuilders and, in particular female powerlifters who use Dianabol and obtain enormous progress with 10-20 mg/day. Women who do not show a sensitive reaction to the additional intake of androgens or who are not afraid of possible masculinization symptoms get on well with 2-4 tablets over a period not to exceed 4-6 weeks. Higher dosages and a longer time of intake bring better results; however the androgens begin to be noticeable in the female organism. No woman who continues to care about her femininity should take more than l0 mg/day and 50-100 mg of Deca Durabolin/week over 4-6 weeks.


Although Dianabol has many potential side effects, they are rare with a dosage of up to 20 mg/day. Since Dianabol is 17-alpha alkylated it causes a considerable strain on the liver. In high dosages and over a longer period of time, Dianabol is liver-toxic. Even a dosage of only 10 mg/day can inerease the liver values; after discontinuance of the drug, however, the values return to normal. Since Dianabol quickly inereases the body weight due to high water retention, a high blood pressure and a faster heartbeat can occur, sometimes requiring the intake of an antihypertensive drug such as Catapresan. Additive intake of Nolvadex and Proviron might be necessary as well, since Dianabol strongly converts into estrogens and in some athletes causes gynecomastia ("***** tits") or worsens an already existing condition. Because of the strongly androgenic component and the conversion into dihydrotestosterone. Dianabol has significant influence on the endogenous testosterone level. Studies have shown that the intake of 20 mg Dianabol/day over 10 days reduces the testosterone level by 30-40% (3). This can be explained by Dianabol's distinct antigonadotropic effect, meaning that it inhibits the release of the gonadotropic FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone) by the hypophysis. Another disadvantage is that,after discontinuance of the compound, a considerable loss of strength and mass often occurs since the water stored during the intake is again exereted by the body. In high dosages of 5O mg+/ day aggressive behavior in the user can occasionally be ebserved which, if it only refers to his workout, can be an advantage. In order to avoid uncontrolled actions, those who have a tendency to easily lose their temper should be aware of this characteristic when taking a high D-bol dosage. Despite all of these possible symptoms Dianabol instills in most athletes a "sense of well-being anabolic" which improves the mood and appetite and in many users, together wilh the obtained results, leads to an improved level of consciousness and a higher self confidence

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[Blackfoot]

TweetNice post bro.

[pigmeat]

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Originally posted by jason864
when u take dbol by itself that is when gains tend to melt away. however when taking with another AS with a longer ester like test eth u will keep the gains you made from dbol an build off them, they just dont melt away when the other test kicks in...

the myth that stacking one gear with another, will solidify the gains from one is a silly concept! Please explain to me how that works. Using test and deca will not make me keep the gains from d-bol more than using alone! The reason people think the gains from d-bol "melt away" is because most of the gains made are from water retention. Like jim said,take l-dex to stop water weight,and the gains you get will be muscle and should be solid.

[prolangtum]

TweetGive me anadrol any day over dbol. Same misconception though, androl is only water. Sure if you take it for 2-3 weeks. Dbol or Drol, IMO should be run 5-6 weeks, so the water in weeks 2-3 will increase strength, protein synthesis, and more muscle will result.

Pigmeat,
LOL, everytime i see "solidify" i go off on a tangent to. Its ridiculous.

[BigD]

TweetI put a friend of mine on a dbol-only cycle with ldex. He gained 18lbs in 5 weeks and kept every single pound. Tell me dbol gains just melt away, go on, tell me