finalizing Bulk Diet, need guidance...

[xandermerlin]

Tweetmorning gentleman, enclosed is my proposed Bulk Diet outline i have planned to follow to go along with my Cyc (Cyp,Dbol,Deca) n would greatly appreciate any suggestions, b it good or bad, 2 finalize it. stats r...
A-38
H-6'0
W-175lbs
BF-13%

Meal 1 (0500)
Pre-workout
whey protein 2sc: 220 calories, 50 g protein, 2 g carbs, 0 g fat
low fat milk 8oz: 122 calories, 8 g protein, 11 g carbs, 5 g fat
banana 1: 105 calories, 1 g protein, 27 g carbs, 0 g fat
alomnd naturally more pb 1tbsp: 90 calories, 4 g protein, 4 g carbs, 8 g fat
ezekiel bread 1: 80 calories, 4 g protein, 15 g carbs, 1 g fat

Meal 1 total: 607 calories - 67 g protein, 59 g carbs, 14 g fat

Meal 2 (0700)
Post-workout
Whey Protein 2sc, Waxy Maize 2sc

Meal 2 total: 520 calories - 50 g protein, 76 g carbs, 0 g fat

Meal 3 (0800)
whole eggs 3: 220 calories, 19 g protein, 1 g carbs, 15 g fat
egg whites 6: 103 calories, 22 g protein, 2 g carbs, 0 g fat
oats 1cup: 311 calories, 13 g protein, 54 g carbs, 5 g fat
banana 1: 121 calories, 2 g protein, 31 g carbs, 0 g fat
almond naturally more pb 1tbsp: 90 calories, 4 g protein, 4 g carbs, 8 g fat

Meal 3 total: 849 calories, 60 g protein, 91 g carbs, 28 g fat

Meal 4 (1100)
Can of tuna, 100 calories, 22 g protein, 0 g carbs, 1 g fat
low fat Cottage cheese 1/2cup, 90 calories, 13 g protein, 6 g carbs, 1 g fat

Meal 4 total: 190 calories, 35 g protein, 6 g carbs, 2 g fat

Meal 5 (1400)
Hamburger patty, 579 calories, 66 g protein, 0 g carbs, 35 g fat
Microwaved red potato (2), 290 calories, 6 g protein, 68 g carbs, 0 g fat

Meal 5 total: 869 calories, 72 g protein, 68 g carbs, 35 g fat

Meal 6 (1700)
Can of tuna, 100 calories, 22 g protein, 0 g carbs, 1 g fat
low fat Cottage cheese 1/2cup, 90 calories, 13 g protein, 6 g carbs, 1 g fat

Meal 6 total: 190 calories, 35 g protein, 6 g carbs, 2 g fat

Meal 7 (2000)
Low fat milk, 137 calories, 10 g protein, 14 g carbs, 5 g fat
Chicken breast, 6oz, 188 calories, 38 g protein, 0 g carbs, 2 g fat
Brown rice , 1 1/2 Cup, 324 calories, 8 g protein, 67 g carbs, 3 g fat
Vegetable, 20 calories, 1 g protein, 3 g carbs, 0 g fat
Cut vegetable salad, 50 calories, 3 g protein, 14 g carbs, 0 g fat

Meal 7 total: 719 calories, 60 g protein, 98 g carbs, 10 g fat

Meal 8 (2300)
low fat cottage cheese 1 cup: 180 calories, 26 g protein, 12 g carbs, 3 g fat
almond naturally more pb 2 tbsp: 180 calories, 8 g protein, 7 g carbs, 15 g fat
oats 1/2cup: 140 calories, 5 g protein, 26 g carbs, 3 g fat
almonds 20: 140 calories, 7 g protein, 6 g carbs, 19 g fat

Meal 8 total: 650 calories, 45 g protein, 52 g carbs, 41 g fat

Total consumption for an average day:
4,476 calories, 418(1672) g protein, 449(1796) g carbs, 112(1008) g fat

if u guys need anymore more info, ill b more than happy 2 provide. ill b waiting.....

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

TweetLooks like u got it nailed down pretty well brother

[MemphisMax]

TweetLooks pretty solid. What does your cycle look like just out of curiosity.

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

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Looks pretty solid. What does your cycle look like just out of curiosity.

morning gentleman, enclosed is my proposed Bulk Diet outline i have planned to follow to go along with my Cyc (Cyp,Dbol,Deca) n would greatly appreciate any suggestions, b it good or bad, 2 finalize it. stats r...

[MemphisMax]

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morning gentleman, enclosed is my proposed Bulk Diet outline i have planned to follow to go along with my Cyc (Cyp,Dbol,Deca) n would greatly appreciate any suggestions, b it good or bad, 2 finalize it. stats r...

I saw that part. Was curious about amounts. Always interesting to see what others run.

[guns01]

Tweeti like the setup my man. very detailed and laid out very well. the only thing i would suggest is to ditch the waxy maize it's pretty much worthless and can cause some serious digestive issues. swap out the waxy with some branch chain malto dextrin or vitargo in place of it. you will be much happier with that

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Tweet[QUOTE=guns01;1211136]i like the setup my man. very detailed and laid out very well. the only thing i would suggest is to ditch the waxy maize it's pretty much worthless and can cause some serious digestive issues. swap out the waxy with some branch chain malto dextrin or vitargo in place of it. you will be much happier with that[/QUOTE read my l log unde r the tgb fourm vitargo is the way to go

[xandermerlin]

Tweetaftrnoon gents n im glad 2 c there r still individuals in the world that r willing 2 lend a helpin hand, even if it is 2 a complete stranger, thanx again yeah was thinking bout the last time i took sum Maize n could not stand the constant farting throughout the day...lol ill switch on over 2 Vitargo be4 i start. MemphisMax, here's what u wanted 2 c...

Plan
wks 1-14 Test Cypionate 600mg/wk (Mon 1.5cc, Thurs 1.5cc)
wks 1-12 Deca 450mg/wk (Mon 0.7cc, Thurs 0.8cc)
wks 1-4/8-12 Dbol 50mg/d evry 5hrs (wks1-5/8-13 Tudca (1/tab AM n 1/tab PM)
wks 2-15 HCG 500iu/wk (250iu pinned Tues/Fri)
wks 1-16 Adex at .5mg/eod
PCT
wks 17-20 Clomid 50/50/25/25/10
wks 17-20 Nolva 40/40/20/20/10
wks 18,20 Clen 20mcg/ed

so guys, is the whole set-up a keeper? anymore info, just let me know n again...thanx

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

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aftrnoon gents n im glad 2 c there r still individuals in the world that r willing 2 lend a helpin hand, even if it is 2 a complete stranger, thanx again yeah was thinking bout the last time i took sum Maize n could not stand the constant farting throughout the day...lol ill switch on over 2 Vitargo be4 i start. MemphisMax, here's what u wanted 2 c...

Plan
wks 1-14 Test Cypionate 600mg/wk (Mon 1.5cc, Thurs 1.5cc)
wks 1-12 Deca 450mg/wk (Mon 0.7cc, Thurs 0.8cc)
wks 1-4/8-12 Dbol 50mg/d evry 5hrs (wks1-5/8-13 Tudca (1/tab AM n 1/tab PM)
wks 2-15 HCG 500iu/wk (250iu pinned Tues/Fri)
wks 1-16 Adex at .5mg/eod
PCT
wks 17-20 Clomid 50/50/25/25/10
wks 17-20 Nolva 40/40/20/20/10
wks 18,20 Clen 20mcg/ed

so guys, is the whole set-up a keeper? anymore info, just let me know n again...thanx

Cool bro read my log at the tgbsupplements fourm it's like 8 pages of my cycle with it great stuff

[xandermerlin]

Tweethey guys i have a question, hope any 1 of u can answer. i posted the xact post on another forum n this was what i got as a response...

your protein intake is through the roof unnecessarily. At most, you only need 230 grams. Any additional protein beyond this will end up in the toilet. No question about it. Which means, your "bulking" diet is not as robust as you think. and since protein = 4cals/gram, then this means 800 cals won't do a damn thing. So your effective calories are now down to 3,600. And since your TDEE is around 2,800, you are 800 cals above TDEE.Capture.jpg

he also posted a graph which describes what he mentions and suggests. what u guys think? am i that over on my diet numbers that ill just gain tons of unnecessary fat or r they just about right? i know ill b gaining fat along with muscle,but i also dont want 2 balloon up...lol i trust ull guide me in the right direction

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

TweetI take in 440 -500 g of protein ed it will not make u fat junk makes u fat

[guns01]

Tweeti eat 5-600g of protein every single day diet and bulk. people are freaking stupid. 1.5-2g of protein per pound of goal weight you are shooting for and you are golden. then carbs and fat you have to play with to see what and where your numbers are on how much bf you are comfortable gaining. these stupid pencil neck guys that read this study or that study and think that this stuff is magic. think of it this way, i ate 600g of protein and 400 carbs and cycled my carbs. i started my prep at 286 and dieted down to 238 dry. i could have came in heavier but i erred on the side of caution and cranked up some things at the end. you should see how some of the top tier guys really eat. it would blow your mind
i guess i should toss out there that this is what has worked for me and others that i know and doesnt apply to everyone. i do know people that barely eat, barely sleep and barely use any supps at all and they are monsters. their are also people that can eat maint pro and then hammer fats and carbs while growing and staying lean. my best suggestion like i pointed out above is 1.5-2g of pro then maybe .75-1.5g of carb and then around .5g of fats. give that a month then if you arent moving up bump up the cals by 300 equally spread out amongst the 3 and go from there bumping up by 3-500 cals per month till you are where you want to be.

[xandermerlin]

Tweetas the saying goes "Always look 4 a second opinion!" the comments made 2 me in the other forum seemed a bit out of place, considering the Chemicals ill b putting into my body n the fact of the matter, that ill b training intensely n will b burning up lots of calories, so i think that by taking in the above mentioned total kcals of around 4500, ill b ok. u shouldve seen the 1st outline i did, after i added up everything my totals were around 5900kcals, so i think ive done good n as u mentioned Guns, what works for u might not work on the next person, trial by error! so given the original Diet i have outlined, i should stick to those numbers? n ill b trashing the Waxy 4 sum Vitargo as suggested thanx guys 4 all the help, ill b sure 2 delete my info on the OTHER forum....lol