My turn to address a concern!!

[Got Gear?]

TweetThis one is about alot of the advice that is given to newbies regarding their first cycle.

If the newbie is under 200lbs and it's their 1st cycle. Decent gains CAN be made with as little as 250mg/wk of test. Most noticeably sustanon. There's alot of bro's out there that have managed to put on 15-20lbs on a simple 250mg/wk sust cycle. So long as their training and diet are also in check.

PLEASE!! Don't go around telling newbs that their 300mg/wk test only cycle "is a waste" and "you won't see any gains". Then reccomending 400mg Deca, 500mg test, and a bunch of D-bol. Let them save that for the next cycle. It's safer and cheaper for them, and if they don't get the results they had hoped for, there's always "Next cycle".

Sure, let em know that you think the dose is a little low and they may not get the gains they are hoping for. But please don't try to talk them out of it. Nothing bad can come of it... and alot of good can come. Why would anyone want to almost a gram of gear a week when they are able to gain fine off of only 300mg/wk?

Not everyone reacts to gear the same. Therefor, it's best to let everyone learn for themselves exactly how much gear they need to grow. And the best way is to start low and work your way up..

[gearedup]

TweetI think for that small a mg per week of test something other than Sustanon needs to be used preferrably one ester!

[Dragon]

Tweetlight cycles are good first ones. my first was 10 weeks of t. enanth 400mg and deca 300mg per week, plus 35mg dbol ed for 5 weeks and i put on and kept 20lbs.

[Got Gear?]

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Originally posted by gearedup
I think for that small a mg per week of test something other than Sustanon needs to be used preferrably one ester!

I agree 100%. I used sustanon as an example because of that exact reason. They were able to do it with sust....

[bigfishe]

TweetMy first cycle of Brovel t-200 at 400mg put 22# on me some water though,and i liked it

[jason864]

Tweetshort ester is the way to go

[scorpion]

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Here is me after my first cycle of 250mgs per week for eight weeks last year...

https://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/s...threadid=11713

[jason864]

Tweetnot bad

[ryan16]

Tweetgood advice!

[prolangtum]

TweetI generally recomend 400mg a week of Ethanate or cypionate. Unless they are under 5'9 we shoudl recomend not cycling, but some will anyways, i didnt. 250-300mg is a decent dose also, much better than being natural.

[Blackfoot]

TweetNice post man.

[prolangtum]

TweetIf they are 5'10 or over and not 200 lbs, is what im refering to, they have room to grow naturally

[Lift Chief]

Tweet250 will give them some gains... but i wouldnt expect more than 5-10 pounds max from it... if you're gaining 15-20 pounds from 250mg of test your diet wasn't in order before the cycle and your weight gain is more the result of cahnge in diet than it is due to the gear itself.... everyone seems to forget most newbies eat much MORE on a cycle and that has a very strong anabolic effect by itself.

[prolangtum]

Tweetok, ok, i have something against all people under 5'9, no more lies

[PinCushion]

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Originally posted by Got Gear?
...Not everyone reacts to gear the same. Therefor, it's best to let everyone learn for themselves exactly how much gear they need to grow. And the best way is to start low and work your way up..

I couldn't agree more!