Is HCG necessary with Deca?

[Fullback40]

TweetI was wondering what your opinions are on HCG with a cycle of Deca? I know some people do not use HCG with Deca and say they can recover fine but I know how hard Deca shuts you down.. is HCG really a necessity in recovery of natty production and keeping gains?...Also anyone have experience with HCG decreasing natty levels in the long run?

Just want to get some experiences.

[wutlisstrice]

TweetAs you said bro "some people",you might not be in that few,i personally run hcg in a small dose over the course of the cycle

[mikeyg51]

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I was wondering what your opinions are on HCG with a cycle of Deca? I know some people do not use HCG with Deca and say they can recover fine but I know how hard Deca shuts you down.. is HCG really a necessity in recovery of natty production and keeping gains?...Also anyone have experience with HCG decreasing natty levels in the long run?

Just want to get some experiences.

i love hcg with any cycle i run, especially deca...However, one thing to consider with deca (and tren for that matter) is Caber or even Pramipexole...But hcg would be highly advised with something as suppressive as Nandrolone...And from what I have read the PCT route should weigh more on Clomid/Torem than Nolva...this is something I have seen lately, how Tren and Deca cycles don't do as well with Nolva as a pct...anyone else read that?!

[animal87]

TweetIt helps me alot. Don't know about it suppressing in the long run tho.

[Little BamBam]

TweetSome people as trice said some are fine with adex but why risk it

[Fullback40]

TweetThank you for the responses. and i will have caber, adex, and clomid ill be using. The only reason i was wondering about this is if their are common long term natty test suppression from HCG. I know this isnt probably well known knowledge just thought i would ask if anyone had some experiences.....Right now im planning on using HCG with the deca

[mikeyg51]

TweetI do not know of any long term suppression from hcg...I know that it CAN suppress though on its own...but taken with deca you will see the positives in my opinion..then run it during your pct if you choose as well and stop...you should be fine...but i will look deeper into this bro

[Fullback40]

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I do not know of any long term suppression from hcg...I know that it CAN suppress though on its own...but taken with deca you will see the positives in my opinion..then run it during your pct if you choose as well and stop...you should be fine...but i will look deeper into this bro

Thanks dude, i appreciate the help.

[rmewrench]

TweetHow long are you planning on running the deca?? And at what dose? Hopefully a minimum of 16 weeks or so. I personally like NPP a lot better. But that's just me. I would be more concerned with PSA levels while on a long haul of deca, prostate issues are no joke. I know dudes that would be on deca and squatting heavy and nutt all over themselves. No their junk wasn't hard either... Weird shit. Anyways. I would monitor your psa throughout with labs the caber, prami or bromo will knock down the psa if needed. and just like anything else cycle your hcg. you can break it up a bunch of different ways. week on week off.... 4 weeks on 4 weeks off... Give it a test run and see how it goes. Deca and NPP both kill my sex drive. My shit would get hard... but I could of cared less about getting it in.

[sofargone561]

Tweeta lot people i know run hcg throughout or aFTER there cycles. i honestly have never done. doesnt mean i wouldnt benafit from it i just never gave it a go. during or after a cycle. and im running deca right now

[Fullback40]

TweetIf i was gonna run it i would Run:
Deca 400mg week 1-16
Test E- 500mg week1-16
Test P -100mg EOD week 1-2/3 (Possibly D-bol)

Caber - .5mg twice weekly throughout cycle
Finasteride - 5mg EOD throughout.
Adex on hand.

For HCG I would start it 2 weeks before my PCT, The day after my last pin. 1500IU`s 3x a week, Then First week of PCT 1500IU`s 2x a week

PCT will have
Clomid 100mg ED week1-2, then 50mg ED week3-5
Nolva 20mg ED week 1-5

[Fullback40]

TweetWhat do you think of the HCG use if i ran it in that way, at the end instead of throughout?

Also while im getting opinions, what do you think of the Finasteride throughout? i am pretty prone to male pattern baldness but its not that bad..yet, my only concern is preventing gains by blocking DHT, in your experiences is DHT production essential?

[animal87]

TweetI don't use finastride, but I remember some guys here saying it gave them some pretty nasty sides.

I do about the same thing for hcg unless its a very long cycle then I start earlier.

[sensitivenips]

Tweet1st off, that fina dosage is ridiculously high. 2nd fina is starting to pop up with reports of long term irreversible damage to the libido system, although this doesnt happen to everyone to me its a concern enough to keep me from using it. i picked up some fina some time back and after reading this news i said "nuh-uh."

if you havent already picked up adex you should consider aromasin. im not sure whats great about adex that people keep using it but it does have an estrogen rebound factor to it. now this doesnt happen to everyone either, but using a nandrolone i would be more concerned about the possibility of estrogen rebound if you do in fact use an AI. estrogen rebound in short is your estrogen bouncing back to high levels fyi.

[Fullback40]

TweetWell damn, i just did some quick research and i see what your saying, in one small study done by Michael S. Irwig 94% of a sample of 72 finasteride users experienced Erectile dysfunction lasting at least 40 months. And i have used it during my last cycle and have just continued it in my PCT and have experienced very low libido and thought it was just from my natty recovery. soo im gonna exclude that from now on.
And in regards to hair loss then there is really no effective way to combat it? at least from the DHT perspective

I was leaning toward adex cuz i can get it easier but ill go with aromasin to be safe.