Being too young on AS

[Team Flex]

TweetDoes have any articles or know any good threads about being to young and wanting to start gear? Im seeing way too many members starting AS at a young age. Need something to show to them why we disagree on this. It seems like when you try and explain it to them they just say its their choice. Then thier is nothing we can do but give them advice so they dont hurt thier selfs.

So if anyone knows any good articles or threads about this let me know.

Thanks

TF

[JohnnyB]

TweetI had the same problem with a young Bro. It's hard to warn someone that has their mind set on doing something.

I know we don't have to help them. If they want to be some brat ass kid and say we have to help them. They are wrong, you are helping them by telling them they are to young. After that their on their own. If they still want to juice then it's on them, they'll have to live with the consequences.

No study is going to change their minds. Although I have seen some young Bros who have taken the advice and are waiting.

JohnnyB

[Team Flex]

TweetYou have some great points there Johnny. I just hate seeing them mess up like that.

[CrazyC]

Tweethow young, is too young?

[YellowJacket]

TweetSorry, this is about all I have brother...


Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.



Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (“growth plates”) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (“voicebox”) into the mid-20’s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:


Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later.

[rado]

Tweetnice read. hope the young one's wait a bit.

[Team Flex]

TweetThanks YJ.... Thats what I was looking for.

[prolangtum]

Tweeti was 17 when i started. God himself could have told me, and I wouldnt have listened.

[Tricky]

TweetGod im 19 and I started 2 months ago....im gonna die huh.

[fighter0728]

TweetThe highschool kids have so much peer pressure to look and act better that they will do what ever it takes to get bigger than everyone else. I heard some highschool kids talking about it in the gym the other day and I didn't even bother to give my advice because I knew they wouldn't listen. Although to be honest I am supprised that I wasn't one of those kids who wouldn't listen and did AS.

[JohnnyB]

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Originally posted by Team Flex
You have some great points there Johnny. I just hate seeing them mess up like that.

I hear you Bro.


YJ good post Bro

JohnnyB

[JR420]

TweetIn my opinion anyone who uses AS before the age of 20 is too young

[Team Flex]

TweetIf you are under that age of 21 please read the article YellowJacket posted... I showed this to a 19 year old on another board and they have changed thier mind to hold off on Steroids now. I know we can't stop all teens to use steroids but we can sure make an impact.

[Ttokkyo--Dog]

Tweetyoung, dumb and full of cum ! oh and they are known to be hard headed sometimes

[34pumped]

Tweetgood post yj