Zma and tribulis after clomid

[dirtyluke1]

TweetWould it be benificial to run 3 caps of zma nightly along with 1000mg of tribulis/day for 6 weeks or so after iam finish my clomid?

[fighter0728]

TweetI was wondering the same thing. Exept I was thinking about just tirbulus, not with zma also.

[swolegreaser]

Tweetthat should be no prolblem.

[caladin]

Tweetis workin wonders for me!

[fighter0728]

Tweetsorry dirtyluke not trying to steal you thread, but is it worth the money to take these on top of chomid?

[trancedelt]

Tweettrib works for some people. it works for me. try it when youre off and see if it makes any difference. you need a high dose too, 3+ grams. it takes about a week before i start to notice a bit better gains, and other androgenic effects. if it works for you, i would start taking it two weeks before you start clomid, and end it when you end your clomid.
Don't cycle zma. You need zinc and magnesium everyday.

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[rado]

Tweet[QUOTE]Originally posted by trancedelt
[B]trib works for some people. it works for me. try it when youre off and see if it makes any difference. you need a high dose too, 3+ grams.


I'll 2nd that. I take around 4g's-5g's of trib when on. When off I take about 2g's-3g's, works wonders for me...

[Superhero]

TweetTribulus doesn't impact serum testosterone at all.

Placebo.

[JR420]

Tweeti have used tribulis b4 and it works wonders

[Superhero]

TweetThe effects of Tribulus terrestris on body composition and exercise performance in resistance-trained males.

Antonio J, Uelmen J, Rodriguez R, Earnest C.
Human Performance Laboratory, University of Nebraska, Kearney, NE 68849-3101, USA.

The purpose of this study was to determine the effects of the herbal preparation Tribulus terrestris (tribulus) on body composition and exercise performance in resistance-trained males. Fifteen subjects were randomly assigned to a placebo or tribulus (3.21 mg per kg body weight daily) group. Body weight, body composition, maximal strength, dietary intake, and mood states were determined before and after an 8-week exercise (periodized resistance training) and supplementation period. There were no changes in body weight, percentage fat, total body water, dietary intake, or mood states in either group. Muscle endurance (determined by the maximal number of repetitions at 100-200% of body weight) increased for the bench and leg press exercises in the placebo group (p <.05; bench press +/-28.4%, leg press +/-28.6%), while the tribulus group experienced an increase in leg press strength only (bench press +/-3.1%, not significant; leg press +/-28.6%, p <.05). Supplementation with tribulus does not enhance body composition or exercise performance in resistance-trained males.


Effects of anabolic precursors on serum testosterone concentrations and adaptations to resistance training in young men.

Brown GA, Vukovich MD, Reifenrath TA, Uhl NL, Parsons KA, Sharp RL, King DS.
Exercise Biochemistry Laboratory, Department of Health and Human Performance, Iowa State University, Ames, IA 50011, USA.

The effects of androgen precursors, combined with herbal extracts designed to enhance testosterone formation and reduce conversion of androgens to estrogens was studied in young men. Subjects performed 3 days of resistance training per week for 8 weeks. Each day during Weeks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, and 8, subjects consumed either placebo (PL; n = 10) or a supplement (ANDRO-6; n = 10), which contained daily doses of 300 mg androstenedione, 150 mg DHEA, 750 mg Tribulus terrestris, 625 mg Chrysin, 300 mg Indole-3-carbinol, and 540 mg Saw palmetto. Serum androstenedione concentrations were higher in ANDRO-6 after 2, 5, and 8 weeks (p <.05), while serum concentrations of free and total testosterone were unchanged in both groups. Serum estradiol was elevated at Weeks 2, 5, and 8 in ANDRO-6 (p <.05), and serum estrone was elevated at Weeks 5 and 8 (p <.05). Muscle strength increased (p <.05) similarly from Weeks 0 to 4, and again from Weeks 4 to 8 in both treatment groups. The acute effect of one third of the daily dose of ANDRO-6 and PL was studied in 10 men (23 +/- 4 years). Serum androstenedione concentrations were elevated (p <.05) in ANDRO-6 from 150 to 360 min after ingestion, while serum free or total testosterone concentrations were unchanged. These data provide evidence that the addition of these herbal extracts to androstenedione does not result in increased serum testosterone concentrations, reduce the estrogenic effect of androstenedione, and does not augment the adaptations to resistance training.

[Lift Chief]

TweetI've read objective studies on both of these supps and they have never been shown to do anything in terms of raising serum testosterone levels... it may have some effect in high doses i suppose.

[swolegreaser]

Tweetgood read SH i was gonna use some trib but hell no now

[rado]

Tweetbut this study does NOT talk about if someone would take 5g's of it a day, whether it would be more beneficial as in less like the study did.

[Superhero]

TweetWell I’m viewing this from a scientific perspective. There are two considerably accurate studies that are directed at resistance trained males that demonstrate the effect tribulus has on the hormones in question, which is evidently zero- not 20% or even 1%, zero. Plus it has no effect on body mass in 2 months. Plus at this time at least I have yet to see a single study demonstrating that is does even slightly effect on testosterone.