please critique

[Dave UK]

Tweethiya folks, i've done 3 or 4 cycles,my last one being 500mg/week of testoviron depot for 6 weeks, 30-40mg dbol a week for 6 weeks and deca at 400mg/week for 8 weeks. i came off with hcg and clomid and clen but was very dissappointed with my (lack of) gains, maybe 7lb tops. to me this was my heaviest cycle yet.
i am 6'0" tall, 188lbs and about 12% bf. i train 3 days weights only, 2 days c.v. only and 1 day of weights and c.v.(6 sessions a week total) i eat a high protein diet and eat reasonably clean.
i would like to do a cycle over the next 10 weeks and although i know i wont make big gains either way, i would like to add some lean mass but also lean up considerably. as my diet is reasonably clean i intend to increase my protein throughout the cycle and cut my calories for the last 4-6 weeks of my cycle to help with the leaning up.
hope thats enough info for you all! now for my question.
i was thinking of doing the following:

weeks 1-8; tren at 228mg/week
weeks 1-10; test at 750mg/week.

i am unsure which test to take, i was thinking sust or test depot or prop. i spoke to a more experienced friend who said that 500mg sust is plenty, also i do suffer with gyno, i always take nolvadex and proviron but still get problems. it never completely goes away but fortunately it does shrink to almost nothing afterwards. so firstly, which test to you recommend and how much?

my second question is, my tren is from g.l laboratories apparently and comes in a 10ml bottle. my source says just use 1 ml every 5 days. does this sound right.

i really appreciate any advice on this cycle guys.

[mick10-07]

Tweetrun longer!! the reason you didn't see gains is cuz you dont run long enough.

use test ethenate with the tren.

what strength is the tren?? I take shots either ED or eod.......

[Dave UK]

Tweetthanks Mick, i don't know what strength the tren is but i will find out and post it up.

[HeHateMe]

TweetYou'll see better results this time around by running it a little longer. Also, is there a reason you only work out 3 days per week? Three days per week, or EOD training is fine when off, but I think it's better to train 4-5 days per week while on to take advantage of the increased recovery time.

Test is test. Enthanate or Cypionate will work just fine.

[Dave UK]

Tweetcheers hehateme, i work out with weights a total of 4 days a week. i feel that any more would hinder my recuperation due to my c.v. training. i know i should calm down on the c.v. but i need it due to my job.

[Extranero]

TweetEither test is good. As for the tren, I'm doing 50mg ed mixed with 75mg prop.

Tren is better with, at a minimum, eod injections. Since you're mixing with prop, consider ed injects.

[Dave UK]

Tweetthe strength of the tren is 50mg per mil. from what you guys have said this is what i am planning.

weeks 1-12: 500mg test per week
weeks 1-12: 50mg tren eod.

don't know whether to stop the tren at week 8 or not?

[Dave UK]

Tweetany thoughts on the above?

[Extranero]

TweetWhat test did you decide on? If it's prop, you need to space out the dosages (eod at least).

The tren dosage seems a little light for a 4th or 5th cycle.

Bump for the real experts...

[71olds442]

Tweetwhat test are you going to do? long or short estered? that would effect the times i'd recommend doing the fina. also, that dosage of fina is pretty low. id go 50mg ED minimum.

[lord humongous]

TweetRun the Tren at 75mg eod at a minimum if you are 1st time user. I run prop with Tren acetate...the combination makes sense because of PCT timing.

Prop 150mg EOD
Fina 100mg EOD

This for ten wks should do you justice.

[Dave UK]

Tweetcheers guys, the test is testoviron depot. i wondered if the tren was enough and to be honest i said 50mg eod due to financial reasons but if that aint enough then i'll just have to afford some more, somehow.

[lord humongous]

TweetMake it yourself...very cheap and effective. Easy to make.