TweetNolva won't help, 50mg is the minimum I'd start with, I think it IS the best bulking drug and NOT as harsh as people make it out to be. It's my favorite bulker, I only use dbol b/c I couldn't get good drol till recently and thai's are DIRT cheap However, many others may tell you to stay the hell away, as for most people there are "safer" if not "better" options!