? for my freinds son

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Tweetidont feel comfortable talking to his son about cycles he is only 22 years old , so his dad and mom are mad at me and we use to be really good freinds untill they asked me to give him advise on aas and cycles. i just dont think he is old enough and he has never even been a member of a gym. so his dad gives me shit and calls me a hypocrit i know this is gonna be the end of our freindship over some stupid crap, i mean does anyone else agree with me about not talking to the kid about aas because of his age and his never even working out . the only thing i offered him was to help him learn about nutrition and how to work out

[deepsouth]

TweetWell I'm against anyone under 30 taking them, but the fact is once they get it in there head -they're gonna do it like it or not. At that point the best thing you can do is guide them the safest way with very low dosage runs and hope they change their minds- otherwise they run the chance of truly screwing themselves up under the advice of some idiot

[kite]

Tweetvery true

[Heavy_Duty]

TweetI find it odd that this can ruin a "friendship". I would ask how strong the "friendship" was in the first place.

On the other hand, it appears that he is with certainty going to run some form of a cycle. Now if the whole "neighborhood" knows he plans to do this you could become an accessory.

On the other hand, you could potentially lay out some of the "directions" so he isn't going down this path completely blind. Or lead him to the internet...there should be no reason someone can't buy some reading material or log on to some site (similar to FG) and not be able to teach themselves everything we all claim to know already.

[jamescb77]

Tweeti am wondering why he wants to do a cycle if he has never worked out and why his dad is an advocate of it?

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

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i am wondering why he wants to do a cycle if he has never worked out and why his dad is an advocate of it?

my point too he thinks heis too skinny and his dad claims the boy has low self estem and cant get a girl all the wrong reasons to me and as faras the freindship thing me and hisdad have been freinds a while so he thinks i am letting himdownby not offering but that is besides the point i just dont feel right helping the kid unless he does alot of homework and proves he can be responsible does that makesence

[a-bomb83]

Tweetif one has trained for at least 5 years natty, and is at least early 20's, i say go for it. i wouldn't go all out and start stackin a bunch of sh it, but basic cycles. oh yeah, and the proper research, that's what really counts. or you could just say fu ck it, and put him on 200mg/day of anadrol for about 10 weeks. then when something bad happens, look at his dad and say "see, i told you so".

[daved150]

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Well I'm against anyone under 30 taking them, but the fact is once they get it in there head -they're gonna do it like it or not. At that point the best thing you can do is guide them the safest way with very low dosage runs and hope they change their minds- otherwise they run the chance of truly screwing themselves up under the advice of some idiot

i agree with deep. his dad probobly hoped IF the kid was gonna do it, atleast know how safely. and, while discussing it with him. you can be discuraging....

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

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i agree with deep. his dad probobly hoped IF the kid was gonna do it, atleast know how safely. and, while discussing it with him. you can be discuraging....

now that is something to think about , maby show him what over use can do to you and lead by example

[jamescb77]

TweetI think an injury is going to result from this if he starts using. Then it will be another case of why steroids are bad for you blah blah. If this kid has never worked out and is a scrawny kid then his tendons are no strong enough to deal with the rapid stength gains from aas. He will injure himself. Why don't you tell him that if he shows progress in his working out, eating healthy and using some supps. Then when he is ready to go at it you will help him along but if he can't help himself then you won't help him. If he agrees to this put him on a 5-6k cal diet along with some creatine and vits.