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      This is something that I have been giving a lot of thought to lately. Its all based in theory. I am not saying that this is how it is but food for thought. Makes sense to me though.

      How often have you seen people mention that there best gains are made early in their cycles...such as the first 4-6 wks?

      In most 10 week cycles I don`t see this as a problem. Now as many people are gravitating towards cycles averaging 20 wks or sometimes more it becomes much more questionable.

      It seems that it becomes more important to force or trick to body into growth by playing with increasing dodes and changing up the AAS within the cycle.
      This is not a pyramid cycle....just stimulas ones muscles in order to extend growth beyond the for 4-6 wks that receptors are fresh.

      An example might be instead of the common cycle which is simple yet losing some affectiveness such as
      WK 1-20 Test 750 EW
      WK 1-20 EQ 600EW
      WK1-4 to 6 D-bol 50ED
      As your body becomes use to the doses your using--causing the tailing off of gains... maybe try a cycle which changes up dosages and drugs so as to "force" or trick your recptors into being like the first 4-6 wks though out.
      Examples might be like this.
      WK 1-10 Test-E 750 EW
      WK 1-10 Deca 400ew
      Wk 1-4 D-bol 50 ED
      Then onto
      WK 11-15 Test-e 1000 EW
      WK 11-15 Tren 100 EOD
      Wk 11-15 Drol 50 ED
      Lastly
      WK 16-20 Test-E 1250EW
      WK 16-22 Tren 100 ED
      WK 16-22 Winnie 50 ED

      Granted there are problems with some AAS`s being run too close to eachother and maybe you prefer Diff AAS`s.
      This is just hypothetical!

      My though is by bumping dosages and inserting diff AAS`s you should effectively be able to "trick" the body into continued growth such as in the first 4 wks or so. The body is keep off guard and recptors are seeing either diff steriods and/or diff dosages hopefully stimulating growth.
      This is much the same as changing your routine in lifting. In other words like changing reps and/or exercises to stimulate growth and staying out of a rut.
      I`ve seen longer and longer cycles lately(I like 20 wks myself) but many people follow the keep it simple idea which has its place. It seems to me in MHO that over 20+wks that the body would adapt to the AAS`s use and especially the dosages.

      This is just my thoughts and I have no real world proof that this is so. Logic says to me there may be some validation here.

      OK, Let me here your thoughts.

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      heard of that and tried it.........heres what I think.

      You start with the most potent, then you gradually taper to milder aas.........so...........you start with drol, test, deca. After your receptors are saturated with those (8 weeks max.) you move on to less anabolic roids.

      Theres different ways of doing it though......3 weeks blitz cycles use to be very popular. You take the juice for 3 weeks at high doses, the most potent being first. This way your body is still getting the juice, but doesn't have time to be flooded with it.

      These can only be used maybe once a year......I still think longer cycles with test yeild the best gains.
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      The big problem with this is that you're going to have inconsistent blood levels.


      These would accomplish your goal of keeping your receptors "tricked" but inconsistent blood levels are also one of the major causes of side effects.

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      price you have to pay......The cycles above are advanced cycles. Its not for guys who are in the beginning stages. Its more of a challenge to gain weight after so many cycles. This way ensures some results.
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      Ill be tring somthing kind of like that but doses will remain the same but I will introduce new things to stimulate growth.

      wk1-12 600mg EQ
      wk4-12 625mg Test E
      wk4-6 100mg Test prop(EOD)
      wk4-8 50mg Dbol
      wk9-12 10iu slin post WO
      wk12-16 50mg Tren(ED)
      wk13-16 125mg Test Prop(EOD)

      When I drop the prop and dbol I will add slin for wks 9-12 then once I drop the slin I'll add tren and prop for wks13-16
      Hopefully with the additions of these two strong compound
      (slin then tren) they will stimulate growth.

      I know this isnt a new concept but its new for me so ill let ya'll know how it works.
      Any ideas or opinions on this idea is welcomed.

      thanks
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      Bump for morning crew

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      I value this boards opinion. So I will do one last selfish bump for the evening crowd.
      Thanks, DOUBLE J

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      Since I`m going to do something similar(Got a wk to finialize) I thought I`d dig this backout for a little more feedback from the Bro`s.

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      I think gains honestly wont be effected that greatly. The biggest reason peoples gains slow is because they have gained muscle but eat the same amount of calories. Plus, surprising your receptors just doesnt happen, they dont downregulate so theres no reason to think this will shock your body into growth. It has some merit and probably wont hurt, but the results probably wont mirror the cost of effort.
      Get back to us with the results though.
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      Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
      alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
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