Mirtazapine (Remeron)Useful in bodybuilding?

[YellowJacket]

Tweetwas crusing at CEM today, had though about the effects of Remeron before, then dismissed it for the fact no one else posted anything about it, now Nandi at CEM (you all know Nandi) has a couple of case studies on it and are excited about it. Remeron will increase your appetite (as reported), this is useful for bulking on cycle or post cycle when you need your caloric intake high to maintain gains.....
Heres the studies:

Prog Neuropsychopharmacol Biol Psychiatry 2002 Dec;26(7-8):1253-61

Endocrinological effects of mirtazapine in healthy volunteers.

Schule C, Baghai T, Bidlingmaier M, Strasburger C, Laakmann G.

Psychiatric Hospital, University of Munich, Munich, Germany. cornelius.schuele@psy.med.uni-muenchen.de

OBJECTIVE: Unlike other antidepressants, mirtazapine does not inhibit the reuptake of norepinephrine or serotonin (5-HT) but acts as an antagonist at presynaptic alpha2-receptors and at postsynaptic 5-HT2, 5-HT3 and histamine H1-receptors. In the present investigation, the influence of acute oral administration of 15-mg mirtazapine on the cortisol (COR), adrenocorticotropin (ACTH), growth hormone (GH) and prolactin (PRL) secretion was examined in 12 healthy male subjects, compared to placebo. METHODS: After insertion of an intravenous catheter, both the mean arterial blood pressure (MAP) and the heart rate were recorded and blood samples were drawn 1 h prior to the administration of mirtazapine or placebo (7:00 a.m.), at time of administration (8:00 a.m.) and during 5 h thereafter in periods of 30 min. Concentrations of COR, ACTH, GH and PRL were measured in each blood sample by double antibody radioimmunoassay and chemiluminescence immunoassay methods. The area under the curve (AUC; 0-300 min after mirtazapine or placebo administration) was used as parameter for the COR, ACTH, GH and PRL response. Furthermore, the urinary free cortisol excretion (UFC) was determined beginning at 8:00 a.m. (time of administration of placebo or mirtazapine) up to 8:00 a.m. the day after. RESULTS: Two-sided t-tests for paired samples revealed significantly lower COR AUC, ACTH AUC, UFC and PRL AUC values after 15-mg mirtazapine compared to placebo, whereas no significant differences were found with respect to GH AUC, MAP and heart rate. CONCLUSIONS: Since the acute inhibition of COR secretion in the healthy volunteers was paralleled by a simultaneous decrease of ACTH release, central mechanisms (e.g., inhibition of hypothalamic corticotropin releasing hormone (CRH) output) are suggested to be responsible for the inhibitory effects of mirtazapine on COR secretion. Our results are of particular interest in the light of the hypercortisolism observed in depressed patients and new pharmacological approaches such as CRH1 receptor antagonists.


**So in a sense, this is equal to bromo, Cytadren & Prozac all in one....


Hum Psychopharmacol 2002 Jun;17 Suppl 1:S37-41

Tolerability and safety aspects of mirtazapine.

Nutt DJ.

University of Bristol, Bristol, UK.

The tolerability and safety profile of the noradrenergic and specific serotonergic antidepressant (NaSSA) mirtazapine reflects its unique pharmacological profile. The 5-HT(2) blocking effect contributes towards its anxiolytic effects and benefits on sleep, as well as preventing the sexual dysfunction that may occur with non-specific stimulation of the serotonin system by drugs such as the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). In addition, 5-HT(3) blockade by mirtazapine helps to prevent nausea and vomiting. Weight gain is the most commonly reported side-effect of mirtazapine, although there is evidence to suggest that this is not a significant problem during long-term treatment. In conclusion, mirtazapine has a good tolerability and safety profile that demonstrates several benefits over other antidepressants. Copyright 2002 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

[pudgy]

Tweetthanks yj, good read

[rado]

TweetI would stay away from it, I was on it for about 2 months, I did gain weight, but I was also tired and no sex drive what so ever. I finally got off it and was put on Nortriptolin, much better. IMO It's ok I guess for the weight gain, but I would rather have a sex drive over this shit.

[rado]

TweetI will be doing another paper regarding some if the drugus that are for depression, sleeping, and or anxiety attacks. I just did one on sleeping dissorders.

[Doom]

TweetRemerons effects for me, went as far as knocking me the hell out
Only used it for sleep, and nothing else