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      The Truth Is Catching Up With Obama
      by Michael J. Gaynor


      Bad News: As Mark Twain famously observed, a lie can go half way around the world while the truth is still putting its boots on.

      Good News: The truth cannot nessarily be concealed forever.

      Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John Sidney McCain wants the North Carolina Republican Party NOT to use a television commercial showing Rev. Jeremiah A. "God **** America" Wright, Jr." calling on God to ****, but the North Carolina Republican Party is right to tell Senator McCain that it is entitled to use that commercial, and he is not entitled to dictate what is included or not included in their commercials.

      Senator McCain is entitled to run his campaign as he sees fit, of course.

      Senator McCain is NOT entitled to censor his fellow Americans, regardless of race, color, creed, sex or political registration.

      THANK GOD and America's Founders and defenders for America's Declaration of Independence and Constitution, especially the First Amendment guarantees of freedom of religion, speech and press!

      Conservative Voice Forum poster: "I find it very interesting that the media brought out the racist card with Bill Clinton the other day, just prior to North Carolina, that has a heavy Democratic black vote. If there is a racist in the mix, yes it is Jeremiah Wright, and black voters who truly want to work together with all peoples need to look at this. The glassy eyed Obama groupies will cast their vote then go for another glass of koolaid. It's time to put the koolaid down, Obama has been shooting himself in the foot lately just being himself. Obama's gaffs have been very serious though, more serious than most of us realize. This man has serious flaws, and the American people deserve better."

      Senator Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. and his supporters have been cunningly trying to induce non-black Americans to support Obama to show that they are not racist and the knee-jerk reaction of some Obama supporters has been to attack criticism of Obama as racist and critics of Obama as racist.

      The truth is that some critics of Obama ARE racist.

      The truth is that some who are supporting Obama instead of Hillary Rodham Clinton are sexists.



      But it's also true that some blacks supporting Obama are doing so because he's the most black of the viable presidential possibilities and, unless racist is arbitrarily defined to exclude them based on race, they are racist.

      The truth is that 1984 Democrat vice presidential candidate Geraldine A. Ferraro was right and the criticism of her as a racist was baseless.

      Mrs. Ferraro was right that Obama would just be an overly ambitious rookie United States Senator unsuccessfully seeking the presidency, despite his lack of military or executive experience or significant legislative accomplishment, if he was not what he is racially: half-black and half-white.

      Like the boy who cried wolf, Team Obama has been crying racism without justification.

      Reality: Race and gender have worked FOR Obama in his race against Hillary.

      Obama's getting more than 90% of the black vote in Democrat primaries and Obama supporters think that's a wonderful expression of racial pride, not evidence of racism.

      But if more than 90% of non-blacks (or women) voted for Hillary instead of Obama, Obama supporters would be railing against the racism (or sexism) of a great percentage of those voters.

      White voters gave Obama more than a fair hearing, as the pre-Rev. Wright and pre-Bittergate primaries and caucuses showed.

      Since voters learned about Rev. Wright and Obama's remarks on small town America, religion and guns at that closed San Francisco Obama fund raiser, however, Hillary's been winning the white vote and in the Pennsylvania Democrat primary she won a big majority of white men and a bigger majority of white women.

      Obama's success was based on his pose as a candidate who transcends race and the ignorance of voters who wanted to believe in him.

      The reality is that the more we find out about Obama, the worse it is for his aspiration to be president.

      That's NOT because non-black Americans are racist.

      That's because they are educable!

      There is no good reason for Obama to have acquiesced in the crazed hate speech of his spiritual mentor, Rev. Wright, for any appreciable length of time, much less many years, risk bringing his young daughters to hear sermons by Rev. Wright and invite (and then disinvite) Rev. Wright to speak at the announcement of Obama's presidential campaign and make him part of his presidential campaign.

      There is nothing racist about opposing the political ambition of a person for dismissing and disdaining religion as the result of bitterness.

      There is nothing racist about opposing the political ambition of a person for looking down upon the people of small town America.

      There is nothing racist about opposing the political ambition of a person for saying that a gun owner clings to a gun because he or she is bitter.

      Obama's real problem is with the truth becoming public knowledge, not the public being racist.
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      well, we've had 4 hours of rev right on the cable news channels

      well, seeing as how i give speeches, write my own, and teach it, imho, i feel qualified to critique him


      a. he's extremely good, ****ed good speech giver, he knows his craft better than 99% of speeches i hear

      b. if u listen to the whole gd speech, it was actually opposite of what it has been portrayed as, ahhhhhh, the utube weakness, fwiw, i listend to it on moyers

      c. he only has one thing, oh, two i don't like, i abhor two things in speeches, swear words, and criticisms of others, he does some mocking in his speeches, not alot, more playing to the crowd, yet, i always imho feel that dimisnishes a good message


      overall it's obvious why he is revered in his community, he is michael jordan like in speech giving


      all the bs above, is so much misguided opinion it's similar to right above

      good luck in your quest, fuzo

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      WELL WE CAN DO THIS IN THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION IN 4 YRS,LOL
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      Quote Originally Posted by trip View Post
      well, we've had 4 hours of rev right on the cable news channels

      well, seeing as how i give speeches, write my own, and teach it, imho, i feel qualified to critique him


      a. he's extremely good, ****ed good speech giver, he knows his craft better than 99% of speeches i hear

      b. if u listen to the whole gd speech, it was actually opposite of what it has been portrayed as, ahhhhhh, the utube weakness, fwiw, i listend to it on moyers

      c. he only has one thing, oh, two i don't like, i abhor two things in speeches, swear words, and criticisms of others, he does some mocking in his speeches, not alot, more playing to the crowd, yet, i always imho feel that dimisnishes a good message


      overall it's obvious why he is revered in his community, he is michael jordan like in speech giving


      all the bs above, is so much misguided opinion it's similar to right above

      good luck in your quest, fuzo
      Trip, in your opinion why does a person's speech abilities supersede their ideology? I admit Obama is a great speech giver but his ideology is dangerous. Wright's speech abilities are obviously for a more uneducated audience but same thing - he obviously motivates and inspires a segment of the population but his ideology is dangerous. As a success coach you should realize that. Anyone that identifies them self as a victim is limiting their happiness - yet this is what Rev. Wright promotes and you defend him and his apprentice.

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      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
      Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John Sidney McCain wants the North Carolina Republican Party NOT to use a television commercial showing Rev. Jeremiah A. "God **** America" Wright, Jr." calling on God to ****, but the North Carolina Republican Party is right to tell Senator McCain that it is entitled to use that commercial, and he is not entitled to dictate what is included or not included in their commercials.

      Senator McCain is entitled to run his campaign as he sees fit, of course.

      Senator McCain is NOT entitled to censor his fellow Americans, regardless of race, color, creed, sex or political registration.
      This is what i can't stand about McCain, he acts as if pointing out the truth about liberals is some how immoral but yet he has no problem pointing out what he considers the truth about the North Carolina's Republican Party as being out of touch with reality. Yeah, it's NC and not Obama. <sarcasm>

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      if u note, my critiques, i said i abhor criticism and mocking of another, that plays into his idealology, which is not imho optimum, yet, that one negative does not negate all the posotive, so on a ledger sheet, he's a do gooder

      i don't see obies idealogogy as dangerous, stupidity, incompetence imho is a hundred times more dangerous

      you've read my stuff lot's of times

      imho, our problem is what is the new road to middle class

      it's education education education

      at what do we have, a 40&#37; dropout rate, that is what pee's me off

      imho, obie has the education bug, and wants to annihilate incompetence in government

      with people working hard everyday, if the government just didn't do dumb stuff we'd be much better off


      oh, fwiw, the latest doo doo from the beltway, cut the taxes on gasoline for the summer, clinton and mccain

      now, infrastructure is badly deficient, and we are awash in debt, so what we should do, is promote more use of a depleting asset, and not save or pay-off anything, yeah, that's a good plan

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      Quote Originally Posted by trip View Post
      if u note, my critiques, i said i abhor criticism and mocking of another, that plays into his idealology, which is not imho optimum, yet, that one negative does not negate all the posotive, so on a ledger sheet, he's a do gooder

      i don't see obies idealogogy as dangerous, stupidity, incompetence imho is a hundred times more dangerous

      you've read my stuff lot's of times

      imho, our problem is what is the new road to middle class

      it's education education education

      at what do we have, a 40% dropout rate, that is what pee's me off

      imho, obie has the education bug, and wants to annihilate incompetence in government

      with people working hard everyday, if the government just didn't do dumb stuff we'd be much better off


      oh, fwiw, the latest doo doo from the beltway, cut the taxes on gasoline for the summer, clinton and mccain

      now, infrastructure is badly deficient, and we are awash in debt, so what we should do, is promote more use of a depleting asset, and not save or pay-off anything, yeah, that's a good plan
      So because he wants to improve government competence; you correlate that as good policy. Tyrants, dictators, socialists and commies all want an efficient society but not at the price of sacrificing government power; what they fail to realize is their government power is in contradiction to competence and efficiency, individual freedom is what creates the environment that produces the most efficient societies, i.e. if you want an efficient society you get government out of it you, do not support broadening it even more.

      Government will always do dumb stuff, it retards competition, it's income is based on force and if it fails in an industry it does not have to be more efficient, it just justifies failure as an excuse to broaden its budget. Private enterprise must be efficient and competitive to avoid failure and it must earn it's income - it has no choice but to be the best or another company will take their customers. Politicians that do not understand and implement this kind of thinking, will only make our situation worse. Obama is talented at manipulating people into believing we have other options at implementing the nanny state with "21st century solutions" and this is why he is dangerous. He does not want to provide a change in government, he wants to grow it with a change in the propaganda.

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      that good old free market did just fine with sub-prime and internet bubble

      it's not only his wants, it's alot of folks wants

      if i had my druthers it would be different, yet, it's not, so i go with what imho is the best

      governments will always do dumb stuff, because people always do dumb stuff, and the government is we the people

      imho obie is right, special interests have dominated law making for 30 years to their interest, so they spent 30 years making special laws, and where are we at???

      i dont' believe hillary will change that, nor mccain, that leaves obie, who's money comes from the people

      that's how i see it

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      vote ron paul

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      Quote Originally Posted by trip View Post
      that good old free market did just fine with sub-prime and internet bubble

      it's not only his wants, it's alot of folks wants

      if i had my druthers it would be different, yet, it's not, so i go with what imho is the best

      governments will always do dumb stuff, because people always do dumb stuff, and the government is we the people

      imho obie is right, special interests have dominated law making for 30 years to their interest, so they spent 30 years making special laws, and where are we at???

      i dont' believe hillary will change that, nor mccain, that leaves obie, who's money comes from the people

      that's how i see it



      AND WHERE IS MCCAIN GETTING HIS MONEY SAME PLACE THE PEOPLE..AND TRIP WHAT MAKE YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA,HE'S A NOBODY HAS NO EXPERIENCE,FRIENDS WITH REV WRIGHT WHO'S A LUNATIC ,ASSOCIATED WITH AYERES A TERRORIST KILLER ,ASSOCIATED WITH REZCO-CORRUPT.WHO'S WIFE SAID SHE'S HATES AMERICA ALSO SAYING GD AMERICA.I CAN GO ON WHY HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE THE EXPERIENCE THE UNITES STATES NEEDS. EVEN HILLARY HAS THAT.
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      all ur stuff is guilt by association, how american is that

      i've said it many times, any of us found on this board we would get the same treatment, yet, we know only 8&#37; of people have the strenghrt to train and eat right, so we say heck with what you folks think based on zero knowledge, we know the scoop

      rev wright, there's something going on there, imho, to me, and this is just a guess, he's more of a religious zealot than hater of america, he has this thing about what a pastor means, that i can't figure it out, like a pastor has a direct line too the lord, and since i'm catholic, or was, i fear all of that believe

      ayeres, well, i've served on boards, and disliked most of the folks on em, cause they were folowers who didn't think

      rezco, gave him a whopping 27k in the '90's , wow,

      hillary expereince, hillary is major co-dependent, she just said she'd obliterate iran, think about that for a second, u just threatened another country, that is dumb as rocks, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, hillary no one on earth doesn't know we havea hundred thousand nuclear war heads, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      if u want a co-dependent america vote for hillary cause she is major league co-dependent

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      Quote Originally Posted by trip View Post
      that good old free market did just fine with sub-prime and internet bubble
      Oh man, now I know you. Your the guy that defines freedom as financial equality even if that requires you take it by force from those who earned it. That is why you think you can support Freedom and Obama, because you don't desire freedom, you use the term to support and justify it's opposite.

      You admit special interests have been influencing government for decades; yet you blame the "free market" for failure - typical lefty. We can't blame "free market" for anything, especially in today's age; there isn't one. Government guaranteed loans, manipulation of interest rates, injection of more fiat currency are responsible for the sub-prime, increase food cost and increased gas price; not the free market.


      Quote Originally Posted by trip View Post
      it's not only his wants, it's alot of folks wants

      if i had my druthers it would be different, yet, it's not, so i go with what imho is the best

      governments will always do dumb stuff, because people always do dumb stuff, and the government is we the people

      imho obie is right, special interests have dominated law making for 30 years to their interest, so they spent 30 years making special laws, and where are we at???

      i dont' believe hillary will change that, nor mccain, that leaves obie, who's money comes from the people

      that's how i see it
      Since you agree government will always do dumb stuff, why would you support someone that wants to expand it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by trip View Post
      all ur stuff is guilt by association, how american is that
      How American is that? Guilt by association? American to you requires that we don't question a potential president's selection of a spiritual mentor?
      Obama intentionally selected a reverend that supports Black Theology as his "spiritual mentor" (Obama's designation, not mine). He maintained that relationship for over 20 years (know anyone that has been a member of a church for that long and calls their pastor their spiritual mentor? Twenty years, he set through this guys sermons and somehow convinced himself Wright met his standards of ethics and morality; that says a lot about Obama!!!).

      I have seen Wright speak and it does not take someone that embraces logic to admit this guy is not intellectually honest in his speeches and that his goal seems to be to exaggerate or create controversy and division and Obama is either too ignorant or too opportunistic to acknowledge that and take proper action and either of these qualities you think should be overlooked when it comes to someone who could be the President of the U.S.

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      i've said it many times, any of us found on this board we would get the same treatment, yet, we know only 8% of people have the strenghrt to train and eat right, so we say heck with what you folks think based on zero knowledge, we know the scoop

      rev wright, there's something going on there, imho, to me, and this is just a guess, he's more of a religious zealot than hater of america, he has this thing about what a pastor means, that i can't figure it out, like a pastor has a direct line too the lord, and since i'm catholic, or was, i fear all of that believe

      ayeres, well, i've served on boards, and disliked most of the folks on em, cause they were folowers who didn't think

      rezco, gave him a whopping 27k in the '90's , wow,

      hillary expereince, hillary is major co-dependent, she just said she'd obliterate iran, think about that for a second, u just threatened another country, that is dumb as rocks, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, hillary no one on earth doesn't know we havea hundred thousand nuclear war heads, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      if u want a co-dependent america vote for hillary cause she is major league co-dependent

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      Watching the talking heads and Obama has finally, strongly distanced himself from Wright's most current statements. If this turns Wright bitter on Obama - he's phucked.

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      • The Truth Is Catching Up With Obama
      • The Truth Is Catching Up With Obama
      • The Truth Is Catching Up With Obama
      • The Truth Is Catching Up With Obama
      • The Truth Is Catching Up With Obama
      • The Truth Is Catching Up With Obama
      lol, free market

      i do not know how old you are klash, yet, thinking that the free market unabated is a good idea is factually flawed

      idiots get into power and make idiot decisions, and u have disastrous results that hurt the many that are law abiding

      do u support the sub-prime mess, which was a total abandonement of standards, and the law of supply and demand

      i'm on obie's side, cause i think there are many smart people in government with smart idea's that want to do great and good things, and for 20 years we have had government which lacked leadership and vision for the future, and that has gotten us where we are today

      no energy policy to speak of, which will be the only lever to raise living standards to 6 billion folks going forward

      that's plain dumb in my book

      along with the fact we are up to our eyeballs in debt

      another insane place to be when u r richer by a factor of 4 than the rest of the world

      increased government employment by 40&#37; and these extra folks have done what????

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