TweetTheir is one study in the new muscular develpoment on that subjectOriginally posted by Crankin'steiN
There has been studies to the contrary.
Tho I don't have them handy..... I know they are out there.
TweetJust read in CHEMICAL MUSCLE ENHANCEMENT that Anavar "does not suppress any part of the Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Testes Axis(HPTA)." They reported athletes used this as part of their post-cycle. "the result was prominent lean mass retention."p27
My post cycle will now include nova,clom, and var. I'll keep you updated. My poor poor liver.
TweetTheir is one study in the new muscular develpoment on that subjectOriginally posted by Crankin'steiN
There has been studies to the contrary.
Tho I don't have them handy..... I know they are out there.
"I plead with you to give your bodies to God. Let them be a sacrifice -- the kind he will accept. When you think of what he has done for you, is this too much to ask"?
ROMANS 12:1
Tweetit does suppress your hpta, it suppressed me. I dont know if it will to you, but im pretty sure it willOriginally posted by loveninsulin
Just read in CHEMICAL MUSCLE ENHANCEMENT that Anavar "does not suppress any part of the Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Testes Axis(HPTA)." They reported athletes used this as part of their post-cycle. "the result was prominent lean mass retention."p27
My post cycle will now include nova,clom, and var. I'll keep you updated. My poor poor liver.
"I plead with you to give your bodies to God. Let them be a sacrifice -- the kind he will accept. When you think of what he has done for you, is this too much to ask"?
ROMANS 12:1
Tweetoops forgot to mention what side they said it doesOriginally posted by Crankin'steiN
OK, and which side does it take??? Does it say that anavar will suppress HPTA or not???
I believe that even anavar will.
your right, var does supress the hpta
"I plead with you to give your bodies to God. Let them be a sacrifice -- the kind he will accept. When you think of what he has done for you, is this too much to ask"?
ROMANS 12:1
TweetVar surpresses the hpta, and it is not sutable for a bridge. It's half life is too long to be a succesful bridge. Go with a light 10mg dbol AM bridge.
Tweet15mg can help with protein synthesis.
Short-term oxandrolone administration stimulates net muscle protein synthesis in young men.
Sheffield-Moore M, Urban RJ, Wolf SE, Jiang J, Catlin DH, Herndon DN, Wolfe RR, Ferrando AA.
Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, and Shriners Burn Hospital for Children, Galveston 77550, USA. melmoore@utmb.edu
Short term administration of testosterone stimulates net protein synthesis in healthy men. We investigated whether oxandrolone [Oxandrin (OX)], a synthetic analog of testosterone, would improve net muscle protein synthesis and transport of amino acids across the leg. Six healthy men [22+/-1 (+/-SE) yr] were studied in the postabsorptive state before and after 5 days of oral OX (15 mg/day). Muscle protein synthesis and breakdown were determined by a three-compartment model using stable isotopic data obtained from femoral arterio-venous sampling and muscle biopsy. The precursor-product method was used to determine muscle protein fractional synthetic rates. Fractional breakdown rates were also directly calculated. Total messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) concentrations of skeletal muscle insulin-like growth factor I and androgen receptor (AR) were determined using RT-PCR. Model-derived muscle protein synthesis increased from 53.5+/-3 to 68.3+/-5 (mean+/-SE) nmol/min.100 mL/leg (P < 0.05), whereas protein breakdown was unchanged. Inward transport of amino acids remained unchanged with OX, whereas outward transport decreased (P < 0.05). The fractional synthetic rate increased 44% (P < 0.05) after OX administration, with no change in fractional breakdown rate. Therefore, the net balance between synthesis and breakdown became more positive with both methodologies (P < 0.05) and was not different from zero. Further, RT-PCR showed that OX administration significantly increased mRNA concentrations of skeletal muscle AR without changing insulin-like growth factor I mRNA concentrations. We conclude that short term OX administration stimulated an increase in skeletal muscle protein synthesis and improved intracellular reutilization of amino acids. The mechanism for this stimulation may be related to an OX-induced increase in AR expression in skeletal muscle.
JohnnyB
TweetHere's another one.
Combined effects of hyperaminoacidemia and oxandrolone on skeletal muscle protein synthesis.
Sheffield-Moore M, Wolfe RR, Gore DC, Wolf SE, Ferrer DM, Ferrando AA.
Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston 77550, USA. melmoore@utmb.edu
We investigated whether the normal anabolic effects of acute hyperaminoacidemia were maintained after 5 days of oxandrolone (Oxandrin, Ox)-induced anabolism. Five healthy men [22 +/- 3 (SD) yr] were studied before and after 5 days of oral Ox (15 mg/day). In each study, a 5-h basal period was followed by a 3-h primed-continuous infusion of a commercial amino acid mixture (10% Travasol). Stable isotopic data from blood and muscle sampling were analyzed using a three-compartment model to calculate muscle protein synthesis and breakdown. Model-derived muscle protein synthesis increased after amino acid infusion in both the control [basal control (BC) vs. control + amino acids (C+AA); P < 0.001] and Ox study [basal Ox (BOx) vs. Ox + amino acids (Ox+AA); P < 0.01], whereas protein breakdown was unchanged. Fractional synthetic rates of muscle protein increased 94% (BC vs. C+AA; P = 0.01) and 53% (BOx vs. Ox+AA; P < 0.01), respectively. We conclude that the normal anabolic effects of acute hyperaminoacidemia are maintained in skeletal muscle undergoing oxandrolone-induced anabolism.
JohnnyB
TweetMaybe no var then, shit is damn expensive anyways. My last post cycle had nolva, clomid, and clen. Lost 8 pounds in 4 weeks, I'd say half was fat though. Maybe I'll add some Cytadren or slin or igf1 r3 next time. Or what bdtr recom. w/ AM light dbol.
TweetYeah, a lot of people have reported being shut down from var alone. That in and of itself is enough to stay away from it as a bridge.
"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
Calvin Collidge (1872-1933)
30th U.S. President
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TweetPersonally, I'd like to keep all of this in check. I just finished my 2nd cycle and plan to be off (that means off of everything except post-cycle therapy clomid and HCG). If I can't stick to the off as long as you're on rule of thumb, then I think I'll be heading for trouble. I want more size as bad as anyone, but I don't want to trade that for my health.
Oh, and last time I lost no weight and no strength after a 12 week dbol/deca/test e cycle.