acetophenamin regulation?

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Tweetok...just heard on one of the news shows, in the waiting area, that the fed is seeking to regulate asprin....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

i didnt hear the whole story, but a customer said that the news said it's the number 1 cause of liver damage in the u.s.......so can we get or ephedra back? how about our hydroxicut....can we have that back now?


FDA Panel Weighs Pulling Nyquil, Other Combination Cold Medicines Off Market

Tuesday, June 30, 2009
Government experts are scheduled to vote on whether Nyquil and other combination cold medications should be pulled from the market to help curb deadly overdoses.
The Food and Drug Administration has assembled more than 35 experts for a two-day meeting to discuss and vote on ways to prevent overdose with acetaminophen — the pain-relieving, fever-reducing ingredient in Tylenol and dozens of other prescription and over-the-counter medications.
Despite years of educational campaigns and other federal actions, acetaminophen remains the leading cause of liver failure in the U.S., sending 56,000 people to the emergency room annually, according to the FDA. There are about 200 acetaminophen-related deaths each year.
"It can happen to anybody, but it's very rare," said Dr. Lee Simon, an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, who attended Monday's meeting. "Obviously it's important that we improve the communication about these products because they are ubiquitous, and we still see people inadvertently overdosing."
The drugs that could be pulled off shelves are combination medications, such as Procter & Gamble's NyQuil or Novartis' Theraflu, which mix acetaminophen with other ingredients that treat cough and runny nose.

The FDA is not required to follow the advice of its panels, though it usually does. The panel vote is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.
Manufacturers could lose hundreds of millions of dollars in sales if combination drugs are pulled from the market. Total sales of all acetaminophen drugs reached $2.6 billion last year, with 80 percent of the market comprised of over-the-counter products.
The FDA says patients often pair the cold medications with pure acetaminophen drugs, like Tylenol, exposing themselves to unsafe levels of the drug.
But the industry group that represents Johnson & Johnson, Advil-maker Wyeth and other companies defended the products Monday, saying they pose a relatively small risk to patients.
Only 10 percent of deaths linked to acetaminophen medications involved over-the-counter combination cold medications, according to the Consumer Healthcare Products Association.
The majority of deaths were caused by either single-ingredient drugs or prescription strength combination drugs like Endo Pharmaceutical's Percocet, which combines oxycodone and acetaminophen.
"We believe there is a clear health benefit of over-the-counter combination products containing acetaminophen," said Linda Suydam, the group's president.
Tylenol-maker Johnson & Johnson also pushed back against a proposal to lower the maximum daily dose of acetaminophen, which is currently 4 grams daily, or eight pills of a medication like Extra Strength Tylenol.
While taking more than 4 grams per day can cause liver injury, J&J argued that taking the exact dose is proven to treat osteoarthritis pain.
The FDA panel also will vote on a series of other proposals, including changes to the packaging and labeling of medications. Both ideas are designed to prevent patients from taking more than the recommended dose of the drug.

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TweetGawd damn! Before long they will be regulating Vitamin C to prevent diarrhea. Phucking government!

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TweetI'm still waiting on cheese-burgers. hell, McDonalds for that matter should be shut down. Long term use of fukin anything is deadly. anything! because ultimately, we die.

[Dragon]

TweetTylenol is very bad for the liver.

[gator_mclusky]

TweetAspirin is ok. Its the ingredient in Tylenol (acetaminophen)and many cold meds including Vicodin and I believe they said Percocet have a high dose.

It really is toxic to the liver.

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TweetYou would be amazed on how much a liver can take. I think there just blowing this our of porportion

56,000 people to the emergency room annually, according to the FDA. There are about 200 acetaminophen-related deaths each year.

This is a very low % compared to how many people visit the ER every year around the usa. and remember this is according to the FDA we all know how numbers get blown up

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You would be amazed on how much a liver can take. I think there just blowing this our of porportion




This is a very low % compared to how many people visit the ER every year around the usa. and remember this is according to the FDA we all know how numbers get blown up

yea, but hydroxycut only had 27 reported problems with the liver...zero deaths!!!! in it's whole history!!!

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TweetThey've known about acetaminophen being toxic to the liver for yrs. Just like so many other drugs out there. There are prescription drugs like Crestor for cholesterol that people take forever, and it is highly toxic to the liver. The widely used list of extremely liver toxic prescription drugs is long.
And as somone mentioned, the liver is the most resilient organ in the body. The only organ that literally regenerates. The liver can take a pounding.

It's like the lung cancer patient that dies, and never breathed a breath of a cigarette, so, they just pass from lung cancer. But if you have a patient with lung cancer that's had a history of smoking, it's because of the cigarettes.
Alcohol is extremely hard on the liver. I'm not sure if it tops the list, but it's bad, very bad on a daily basis by the case/s. There are people out there that consume alcohol in great volumes on a daily basis that have perfectly healthy liver and liver function. I know someone that drank like that for 30yrs. His liver is absolutely fine. His health, otherwise, is not at all, but his liver is working like a champ. He jokes and says he's going to donate his liver to a university to study.

Bringing the old acetaminophen thing back up is just more regulation. More government. more spending. more cost to me and you.

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They've known about acetaminophen being toxic to the liver for yrs. Just like so many other drugs out there. There are prescription drugs like Crestor for cholesterol that people take forever, and it is highly toxic to the liver. The widely used list of extremely liver toxic prescription drugs is long.
And as somone mentioned, the liver is the most resilient organ in the body. The only organ that literally regenerates. The liver can take a pounding.

It's like the lung cancer patient that dies, and never breathed a breath of a cigarette, so, they just pass from lung cancer. But if you have a patient with lung cancer that's had a history of smoking, it's because of the cigarettes.
Alcohol is extremely hard on the liver. I'm not sure if it tops the list, but it's bad, very bad on a daily basis by the case/s. There are people out there that consume alcohol in great volumes on a daily basis that have perfectly healthy liver and liver function. I know someone that drank like that for 30yrs. His liver is absolutely fine. His health, otherwise, is not at all, but his liver is working like a champ. He jokes and says he's going to donate his liver to a university to study.

Bringing the old acetaminophen thing back up is just more regulation. More government. more spending. more cost to me and you.

Phuckin Eh! It's just a bunch of gawd damn power hungry politicians that think our government should nanny all of it's citizens because they think we are too stupid to read a phucking medicine label!!!!

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Phuckin Eh! It's just a bunch of gawd damn power hungry politicians that think our government should nanny all of it's citizens because they think we are too stupid to read a phucking medicine label!!!!

wow...you and hrose sure are little negative nancy's arent you!!! i think the gov is just trying to look out for us bro...thats all.

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Tweeti simply cannot believe what this world and this country is comming too..

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wow...you and hrose sure are little negative nancy's arent you!!! i think the gov is just trying to look out for us bro...thats all.

Your ignoring the premise that government is brute force. "Looking out for us" requires using coercion/force on us! Don't really want someone "looking out for me" with the use of force.

Come on man, I thought we had already made progress through all this.

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Your ignoring the premise that government is brute force. "Looking out for us" requires using coercion/force on us! Don't really want someone "looking out for me" with the use of force.

Come on man, I thought we had already made progress through all this.

lmao!!! your a fukin retard!! you think i honestly believe that???!! like i WANT them to regulate more...i thaught you had a grip on my sarcasm by now, jeez!!!!

[Dragon]

TweetI think removing tylenol from popular painkillers is a great idea.