You Think Your Emails Are Safe?

[3Vandoo]

TweetHow your email is really safe!

There is a false security sentiment that goes around the board’s community, and this is the feeling that we must use secured emails such as: hushmail, ziplip, s-mail, securemail etc...

It is now even common that many boards require that their member utilise a secured email, also the promotion of secured emails with PGP is greatly promoted.

So do you think your email is safe?

We all know that with some emails you need a key, a pgp key for encryption, or send the email between the two same emails provider.

Well I have news

The Yahoo, or hotmail are as safe as hushmail or cyber-rights.

Why?

Most of us, use these types of emails to protect from the authorities, well you guys do, not me as I am a canuck. But, you are afraid that they can intercept your email and know what you are dealing with, right?

Well bad news folks!

All of your encrypted emails even if it goes to the 128bits are easily decrypted by the authorities such as federal agencies, FBI, ATF, DEA, Custom etc.

But the biggest fun is with the “Echelon” program where the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia joined common effort to intercept all communications such as TV, Radio, internet(email, chat, board, messenger), phones, cell, satellite communications, GPS locations you name it, every device with the possibilities of communication is monitored even your XBOX!

How it works, well, first these agencies are usually the NSA, CSE(Canadian Version of NSA), MI5 .. They sponsor all monitoring on “foreign” power and residents. Yeah right..

Ok, let’s see.

All communication let’s say leaving the US are monitored and RECORDED in big big computers at Fort Meade Maryland(home of the No Such Agency AKA NSA)

So if you talking on MSN messenger and you sending a message to a buddy saying “Dude, ever tried that brand?” well the echelon has it recorded, even if you use an encryption for MSN.
On the phone with your wife as you are in another city having phone sex with her “Hey baby, I am ….”. Well too bad, you were recorded.

Text messaging a friend saying “Hey wanna smoke weed tonight dude”. It is also recorded.

NAME IT, it’s out there.

And no it’s no propaganda or conspiracy theory on Art Bell, it is true.

No never wondered why some of the BIG CHINESE sources never use encrypted emails (except one I know, that do business outside of the Chinese territory) Why?
Because all emails outbound and inbound are monitored by the Chinese government.
Yes, do see if there no counter-revolutionary materials going on, that’s one example!

So the Chinese government knows if you ordered Jin’s kits or one gram of test in powder.

You are sceptic? Go to Hong-Kong and see how long the custom will precede you after you showed them your passport!


Now let's go back to the Western World. Okay, everything is monitored and recorded, but this doesn’t mean it will be use against you.

The echelon program will only give the info to: Head of State for national security and economy. Terrorism(If they want to), threat to national security, international blackmail(toward diplomats) or for their own personal use.

Rarely will they share the information gathered to the FBI, RCMP or Local cops, but these agencies have no problems looking at your email. Some will say “Hey they need a warrant” Yes they do, you think they get the warrant first. Oh no, they will look, if they find something they will come with the warrant after.

As for the agencies with echelon! Need a warrant! HAHAHAHAHA BOUAHAHAHAHAA!!! They don’t obey to the same laws as cops, actually they have no fucking law to obey to. Except, the one they cannot spy on national citizen.

So if the NSA wants to spy on Basskiller as example by law they cannot do so, but they will ask the Canadian to do it. And, that is legal.

Will the information gathered by these spooks used against me?

Probably no, but there are exemptions, if you do international business, want to run for a political office, or have a high security clearance into a government agencies then this might be used against you as everyone have a file in these super computer.

Let’s see how it works:
(fictional name of course)
File name: Gear Got (122345) Born 1875/02/29
- steroid : 1254 mentions
- Bomb 2 mentions
- Fraud 1 mention
- Bin Laden 58 mentions
- Love to fry cat 12 mentions


Most of the time, they will not look at these file, except on the above mentioned earlier.

But the monitoring works also as well as intercepting words live!

So if a person says “ Let’s blow Bush that infidel bastard, let’s blow him with the nuclear device at the WTO meeting in NY, Allah Arbkar!” You bet this will be monitored right on by spooks and investigated.

Same think if you email a friend and write these nice words:
- bomb
- jihad
- war
- Mujahideen
- Shahid
- cocaine
- Bush
- president
- congress

you get the point!

So the moral of that story is easy.

You having a false sense of security, when dealing on all form of communication, do it wisely and smart as you are not safe at all and not ALONE!

3Vandoo

[BM]

TweetHow true this is man!

[jamesbrosky]

Tweetsad but true...

[DangerousGround]

Tweetlong as your not a big player I wouldn't be to concerned.
To many big fish to fry than average guy.

[trancedelt]

TweetOK Dale! (King of the Hill)

[AnotherUser]

TweetI'm sorry, and I know I'm going to get shit for this, but there is a LOT of conspiracy theory in there. Probably about 90%.

The government does not record your phone calls. They do NOT record all electronic conversation. It's not even argueable. The logistics make it IMPOSSIBLE.

Seriously bro, you're doing a great disservice by encouraging people to not use secure forms of e-mail.

[3Vandoo]

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Originally posted by AnotherUser
I'm sorry, and I know I'm going to get shit for this, but there is a LOT of conspiracy theory in there. Probably about 90%.

The government does not record your phone calls. They do NOT record all electronic conversation. It's not even argueable. The logistics make it IMPOSSIBLE.

Seriously bro, you're doing a great disservice by encouraging people to not use secure forms of e-mail.

Nope, no conspiracy theory here

Let's say I used to be close to one of these agencies, got recruited but failed one of their test. Everything written here is true and very true.
Its unbelievable what they can do, but you dont have to worry actually.
The point of the post was to say no emails are safe and the normal one are as safe as the "secured" one, thats it.

And you think its impossible, well dude, 40years ago we said it would be impossible to send men to the moon.

impossible is a word that tend to be broken once in a while.
And the computers used by these guys are not your P4, they are so advanced in term of informatic it kick ass.

But then again it might be all conspiray eh

[3Vandoo]

TweetOh I forgot, the recorded phone are based on words spoken, so the computer seach for words that you said and take its note from there.

Should have specified at first.

Will explain later

[DangerousGround]

TweetI know if they really wanted ya they could find any info about me but what can we do.
I will send em a piece of shit and they can see what i ate...I had corn the other night.

Yeah big brutha always watching out for us

[ray_ivory]

TweetHow very true 3VANDOO, man you know alot. Share some more with us. You mean I can't use my so called safe email.LOL
Its the farthest thing from safe.

AnotherUser u better do your research bro.
Walk into NSA in Maryland and ask them bro.

[FUZO]

TweetNOTHING IS SECURE,AT ANY TIME THE GOVERMENT CAN HACK INTO ANY THING

[3Vandoo]

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Originally posted by ray_ivory
How very true 3VANDOO, man you know alot. Share some more with us. You mean I can't use my so called safe email.LOL
Its the farthest thing from safe.

AnotherUser u better do your research bro.
Walk into NSA in Maryland and ask them bro.

LOL Ray knows his shit toward these guys, I swear to God he can comfirm what I said is true.

He a certain way, played in that league, he's one of my army's buddies!

but if Ray could go deeper in details to the limit of getting court martial??!!! go ahead dude

[ray_ivory]

TweetGuys, even 1024 bit encryption isn't safe guys.

[jigga]

TweetNo shit, Why do you think computers were REALLLY created???????????

[DangerousGround]

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Originally posted by jigga
No shit, Why do you think computers were REALLLY created???????????

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