Clomid Mid Cycle?

[AceDaBoss]

TweetI know some use HCG mid cycle and again post cycle for quicker recovery. But has anyone used Clomid mid cycle (During longer cycles, 16 weeks for example) and then Clomid again Post cycle.

Do you think it is a good idea and do you believe it will help you recover quicker when your cycle is finished. Possibly keeping more gains?

Thoughts?

[flexer01]

Tweetdont do that! you'll fuk up your test levels. I always do clomid after.

[stiles]

TweetIt won't do anything but act as an anti-e during a cycle. It doesn’t' matter if you prevent estrogen from effecting the HPTA because your androgen levels will still suppress you.

[grdfreak]

TweetI ran clomid mid cycle for a little then got off. I am still on im gonna be off in like 2-3 weeks, it all depends on when or if i can get some hcg. ill let u know make sure to get in contact w/ me if i dont update u guys. I think as long as u run hcg before clomid at the end my body know to start producing test again.

[smalls]

TweetAs stated above, it will do nothing in the way of hpta recovery of testicular atrophy. It will benefit cholesterol levels.

[AceDaBoss]

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Originally posted by smalls
As stated above, it will do nothing in the way of hpta recovery of testicular atrophy. It will benefit cholesterol levels.

So you are saying that although some people run HCG mid cycle AND Post cycle (during longer or heavier cycles) with the idea being that when you are finished your cycle you will get things back to normal quicker then if you only used HCG after.

But running Clomid mid cycle and Post cycle with the same idea/Goal will not work or be beneficial in helping you recover quicker then strictly running Clomid Post cycle Only?

[stiles]

TweetHCG and clomid work very differently. HCG mimics, LH which directly causes the gonads to get to work. It doesn't matter how high your estrogen or androgen levels are for HCG to work. With clomid having elevated androgen levels will keep you suppressed even though you are blocking the estrogen based negative feedback.

[grdfreak]

Tweetdoesnt clomid stimulate the testes to start producing test again.

[grdfreak]

Tweeti understand that since ur androgens wuld be high there would be no need for ur testes to produce test. But would introducing clomid mid cycle to stop estrogen have any positive effects on post cycle recovery?Cuz clomid works as an anti-estrogen in turn stimulating the testes to produce sperm.But with ur levels high mid cycle when u introduce clomid ur body will see that it already has enough test in it and it wont work there but how bout when u come off and do post cycle recovery again and now u give ur body clomid again but this time theres hardly any test. Meanwhile ur body is used to having test while clomid or the anti estrogen is in ur body so therefor wouldnt ur body try and make test even faster. --------wow what a brain FUK

[jack hust]

Tweetit wont help you just wait till your done with the cycle

[Squirrel Masta]

TweetYou would feel like a 13yr old teenage girl going through puberty if you try that.

[Stupid Biotch]

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Originally posted by grdfreak
doesnt clomid stimulate the testes to start producing test again.

Yes it does.....by blocking estrogen which makes you recover your test levels faster. This is why you can use nolvadex instead of clomid post cycle if you want. They do pretty much the same thing. But if you're on cycle...you can block all the estrogen you want....your balls will still be shut down.
HCG...as someone already said very well....mimics LH and pumps your balls up no matter what. This also why you don't want to use it AFTER your cycle because it interferes with your real LH you're trying to get going. But using it at intervals DURING your cycle...keeps your balls filled...and then when you come off...presto...you have big balls already. Kind of like a running start to LH recovery.

Some suggest that using clomid or nolvadex or any anti E for that matter...throughout your ENTIRE cycle... will help you recover quicker when coming off. I'm not sure if this is true or not.

But there is no benefit...in regards to getting your natural testosterone production back...to using clomid during mid cycle.

[Pheedno]

TweetClomid does not directly stimulate the testes
Clomid is a synthetic estrogen. When taken while test levels are at their lowest, clomid allows for a signal to be sent to the body that tricks it into thinking estrogen is being produced. To compensate the estrogen increase, the body starts producing test again to get the Test/Estrogen ratio stabilized

Nolva post cycle does sort of the same thing. It binds to the ER which tricks the body into thinking estrogen is beig produced. This is why nolva is commonly used by women going through menopause. With the depleting production of estrogen in their body's, the Nolva binds to the ER and tricks the body. This stops symptoms such as hot flashes/mood swings


Clomid does nothing for HDL(Cholesterol). Nolva does as it's a SERM(selective estrogen receptor modulator) which has been shown to approx. improve HDL levels by 7%(give or take a % individualistically)