ps - i also read that the body starts to catch on to the igf treatment after about five weeks or so.....this makes its power not as prominent in the muscle cells. Again this is info that i read on...

i run four on four off at about 80mcg per workout. (40 am then 40 post workout) seems to be working out just fine. Alot of guys say the four on four off rule is BS....i'd say go for the 5 on...maybe...

i run hcg sub-q only.....no real reason why i don't do IM. just easier for me i guess.

you really should of ran it with something....deca, eq, sust.....anything. you might be disapointed bro.

go for it....i've done it before. didn't really enjoy it or see any results. i only inject in delts, bi's, chest, lats, tri's, and calfs. ...... ( i said only...???)

nope...i ran multi est test for months. never had this bad of sides.....i dunno, could be my diet or lifestyle. wink wink :ARChainGu

my water intake is up there...almost 2 gallons per day. give or take.......

i gues i just need some other vets input... i've been running ug sust for 6 weeks now at 1000mg per week, front loaded with 2000mg week one. the sust is comprised from prop, test deconate,...

tren enth for sure!! like o2 said....tren shuts the test system down pretty fast. accetate is nice but i got way better results from the test ester. better bang for your buck bro.

i also ran it...

i thought m1t worked good alone as a bridge....thats just me i guess. although i did run it with prop and water base suspension once...not very nice.

i dunno bro....sounds like your limited on...

simple blood test. they'll check the function of your balls and stuff. normally its included in a normal blood workup. . . if not say your on juice and you feel no sex drive. they will test then...

used it twice. good results.....probly wouldn't do it again though. i have the bald gene.

yamaha just through a cute little puppy in the ring.....lol


good luck with your igf bro!! you'll love it, no matter how you run it!

lost?? i had to lay down half way through reading it!!

very true bro....thats just what me and my training partner did. For us it was a cost/time issue. we wanted full benefits at minimal dose. I agree fully with you....the reason i wouldn't run with gh...

not to step on anyone's toes....but you take a totally different approach when it comes to IGF. here's how i've ran it twice now with very good results. If its your first time here's what to do.......

EDIT has been around a long time bro....5 years ago they were the most easy to fake. not sure on the status now but i'd be weary. like the other boys said....any mex gear is a toss up now.

ya...the headache thing is a *****. i dropped to 100mcg this week. also noticed alot more hypo shock symtoms, not too severe mind you but enough to make your get a little sketchy.

this time i'm...

ya....bromo for progest gyno for sure. there's a couple others bet its not worth the money when bromo works just the same.

npp will for sure induce or re-establish old gyno if run too high and for too long.....i use femera with mine and works like a charm.

npp is a great product....nice addition to any cycle by the...

ok!!! got my computer back.....sorry guys here's how my cycle finished.

remember i ran igf 40mcg/day split into am/pm shot. ran tren enth/test enth and prop all the way through.

first 4 weeks...

yeh bro! this is her second time being pinched...... how the fuk fast does she wanna be???

he did test positive bro....a coulple times. he had cancer so chances are he was on some kind of roid. whether it helped him win or not who knows??

the fact is that people get pissed at cheaters....

i'm running 4 on 4 off right now....i'll never run igf with insulin.

all depends on how good your pct is bro....i loose strength after about a month. I drop water within the first 2 weeks of pct. this will trick your brain into thinking your loosing your gains...

ha ha....thats fukt dude

oooooooooo......cyp is very tasty bro! you'll see some solid gains from that for sure

I'm thinking on an end of summer bash with that stuff. I'll let you know how it goes i guess....

good info by the way. nice to have guys willing to share....

now it worked.....cool siite bro!

what kind of site is it.....it won't let me load the page????

what the..........???

so does it work or not?? the bottom line is that if its worth me buying......i'll leave the science and research to the nerds. just load the syringe already.

letro is the best.


nolvadex will work if its in the first stages....and yes start at 30mg/day. jmo

its gyno....start dex at 30mg/day for two weeks then taper down to 20mg.....you'll be fine bro

thats what i thought. thanks guys...

lots of guys have warned me about companies that sell igf already recostituted.....they say stay away unless its not.

sounds kinda weird to me. I had to recon mine, but i'm interested in stuff...

good read.

running lr3 igf @ 40mcg/day split into 2 shots. Running it with test-e and tren enenthate. adding test prop for weeks 5-14.

so far i noticed a huge increase in appetite. The gains are slow but...

interested.....but need more testing and dosing info. I'm running igf right now with some good results. nothing huge but its qaulity muscle.

right on....thanks bro.

oh!! how bad was your gyno when you started?

how is it on your sex drive at that dose?

yeh scales are bad....good start though. I love that combo of test and EQ. Did you run any orals with the prop?

i heard its pretty good....increases test levels and what not. Just concerned now about getting shut down running at 2.5 mg/day.

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Tren is low cuz i dont have much. Its left over so i'm just throwing it in as a filler i guess.......

the femera i got came in caps, 2.5mg per cap. how do i divide that up into smaller doses then?...

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I wouldn't run novaldex on cycle....takes to much away from your AAS. Letro and aroma are far better choices in my book.....both are alot stronger on the cellular level then novaldex. Can even take...

I've read the noval has adverse effects on IGF production in the body...as well as blocking my damn receptors.....anyway, i've got the onset of gyno and running novaldex seems to do nothing. Thinking...

yeh, i've been up to 12-13 iu.....but your so right bro. I started really low and worked up to that dose.

thanks for the input mikey, i'll put your thoughts to action.

ok...I'm in week 3 of the test and tren. I front loaded for two weeks then started IGF. I just started week 2 at 40mcg (20 and 20) of the igf. I was using the slin at 12iu PWO during the front load...

how long after i'm done the IGF should i wait to start the slin?? my cycle is 16 weeks of the tren and test. I'm running the IGF 5 and 5 with 4 weeks off in between. could i run the slin on those off...