TweetSome things may work for others but no worktfor you. Also water intake is a must healthy eating

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Originally Posted by FUZO

Some things may work for others but no worktfor you. Also water intake is a must healthy eating

This is Exactly true., thank you.
Also, he is only about 32mcg a day of clen.
Which isnt a whole lot.
Proper Diet, and cardio still need to be followed.
But that's why i also asked about his AAS.
And t3.


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Originally Posted by macedog24

he is only about 32mcg a day of clen.

orals & injs hit different.

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Originally Posted by DethKlok

orals & injs hit different.

i would like to see what would happen if someone used 120mg of clen from helios in a day like oral clen. if it didnt kill you then the shakes and lack of sleep would kick your ass for a few days

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Originally Posted by guns01

i would like to see what would happen if someone used 120mg of clen from helios in a day like oral clen. if it didnt kill you then the shakes and lack of sleep would kick your ass for a few days

with yoh added in there is no telling which will kill ya first. two together are very powerful. for some its simply on their cant do list.

lex- with those sides at least you know recon hooked you up : )

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Originally Posted by guns01

i would like to see what would happen if someone used 120mg of clen from helios in a day like oral clen. if it didnt kill you then the shakes and lack of sleep would kick your ass for a few days

F'that. Lol.... How much you gonna pay me.
3 ml. No spank you

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Originally Posted by DethKlok

orals & injs hit different.

They Definitely do. And add the yohimbe in there also . This hits pretty fast. But he is taking all this at once + tren a + t3. This is why i ask about these things. Especially if he is sensitive to stims.
There is a lot going on here. Just trying to get some perspective and narrow things down.

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TweetMy mistake Dethklok. I was replying to Macedog24's most recent questions (post #36).

TweetYou are thorough lex and you are chill on FG. i would just back off the helios for a bit. i don't usually use peptides stand alone but recon sounds legit if it gives you those tweaks. If it simply doesn't agree, try clen stand alone apart from yoh. -DK

TweetThank you and I appreciate the advice from both you and Macedog24. Good stuff! I scaled back the HELIOS, am now in caloric deficit and increased my tren intake from E3D to EOD! It's only been two days and I feel much better already (no shakes, nausea or shits). That HELIOS did a number on me for a minute!

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Originally Posted by lex-ttp

Thank you and I appreciate the advice from both you and Macedog24. Good stuff! I scaled back the HELIOS, am now in caloric deficit and increased my tren intake from E3D to EOD! It's only been two days and I feel much better already (no shakes, nausea or shits). That HELIOS did a number on me for a minute!

glad to hear it man. helios can sneak up on a bro ... i know lol. Good luck with the rest of your run!

TweetNever been able to handle clen or any fat burner. I get the hand shakes from clen at 25mcg max

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Originally Posted by PUMPED

Never been able to handle clen or any fat burner. I get the hand shakes from clen at 25mcg max

i am the exact same way. i shake like a cat shitting razor blades for the duration of clen or any other stim. i like the helios much better than tabs though