Originally Posted by
mick-G
Blue Tops for about 3 months very painfull in the elbow joints at nite, and hand numbness. the joint pain in the elbows at nite was sometimes unbearable even when taking ibuprofen and glucosomine/condroitin. I started at 2IU then up to 4IU pain was too bad went back down to 2 then 3, then 4 pain again so i swithched to Jino. Much better, less pain, but still felt the bf loss etc. My sleep tho was unchanged, not any better i still take val at nite, lol! Overall, iam not to satisfied with the kind of $ i spent, you can get just as good if not better growth and size off test, with a 19nor or tren, imo it is much over rated. I would say, if you are younger it is a waste of money, just stick to the basics, your not going to see anything overwhelming, plus you are producing enough igf. Now if you are older (40 +) i can see a benefit.