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Ok I'll be coming off in a couple weeks of a 20wk cycle of (Abombs,Test,EQ,Tren, winny)
I have a idea of my PCT but I wanted some Vets to help give ideas of what worked best for them.
I have:
10,000iu HCG
60 clomids
80 nolva
6mg Arimidex
2mg Femera
100 proviron
Insulin
Clen
I would like to Incorporate all of this to have a really good PCT!
Obviously it has alot to do with hard training, keep eating, and a strong mind, but any ideas would really help.
thanks
thehamme
well the cycle is quite long and allaborate but Im stopping TE, EQ and tren about 4wks before PCT. During the last 4wks Im using Prop and winny, so I'll be able to jump right into PCT.
My thought was:
500iu ED last 2 weeks of cycle
Clomid 300mg day1, 200mg 2-12, 50mg 12-30
Nolva 40mg ED last 2 weeks of cycle into PCT, with taper down
Arim .25 ED wk1 PCT, .25 EOD wk2
Femera .25 EOD wk3
Proviron 50mg wk1-3 25mg wk4-5
Clen 40mcg ED wk1-3
slin 3iu P/W wk1-3
what do you guys think? what changes?
thanks
thehamme
why di u want to add clen? that shit won't do any good to ya,,,
there's recent studies that prove that it's no benefical in keeping muscle (as anticatabolic) it just works in animals.
i say keep it off
I just thought the clen would help keep fat off because I tend to put fat on pretty easy when I come off, that why the low dose. Also I will be using slin, which can put fat on easy so hopfully it would help.
Any other suggestions please.
thanks
thehamme
I don't think you'll want the clen. It'll just take the muscle off, not the fat.
The rest of it seems good.
I'll second that clen opinon. That shit is a muscle kilerl off cycle. I wouldn't risk eating up that muscle you just gained. IMO it should only be used in the middle of a cycle. Keep it out of PCT and just hang on to it till next time.
Besides the hcg.
The proviron should be the 1st thing you use.last wk then the two wks out. I'm glad to see you incorporate slin, creatine goes with it, You probabaly know that though.
I don't know about clen being a mucle killer while off cycle, but it is catabolic. Combine it's catabolism with low test levels found during PCT, and you have a recipie for rapid muscle loss.
It's a much better idea to wait until the PCT is finished, then use some clen to help get rid of the fat gained during PCT.
gg? correct me if im wrong, but i always thought clen was ANTI-CATABOLIC...
A common misconception about clen. Made popular by a popular anabolics book published almost 10years ago.Quote:
Originally posted by 71olds442
gg? correct me if im wrong, but i always thought clen was ANTI-CATABOLIC...
Clen was found to be somewhat anti-catabolic on horses. In this case, it's one of the few examples where the drug has different effects on different species of mamal. If memory serves me correctly, it's only anti-catabolic for a certain type of muscle tissue. A type that horses have lots of and humans don't.
The truth is that clen has very little muscle sparing properties and is catabolic just like ECA, T3, or a diet below maintenance calorie consumption.
thanks for the heads up.