Which AAS did you have the most bad sides?
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Which AAS did you have the most bad sides?
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Tren for sure by a huge margin. (With test E) Only did it one time and for one month. Never had so many side effects even on a low dose of 50 mg EOD.
Oral anadrol for sure. Tren is 2nd but much milder compared to anadrol. But everyone is different.
I guess tren would be the compound that gives me the most all around sides. It really messes with my sleep which I think contributes to a lot more.
Solid topic. Ive had prolactin induced gyno in my left nipple from dbol at a young age before i knew what prolactin was and when Tony Huge was promoting Ment and ladyboys. I tried it thinking it was gonna be the next big game changer. Not knowing which is 100% my fault. That Trestolone causes serious estrogen sides. I ran 3-700mgs with 50-100mgs of Test Prop per every 100mg of Ment. Fucked up my left nipple even worse. That was 2015 around that time. Within the last year i got it shrunk via nolva, aroma and adex as well as heavy long distance cardio and a serious calorie deficit. Im afraid of high amounts of test, any 19-Nor and Trest.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaviBerserker
I remember one time I was doing a Blend of Test E/ Mast E/ Tren E and after like 2 weeks I was, or I felt Toxic as F*** !!
I was taking 3CC's Mon/Wed/Fri and Yes I was getting strong, the side effects were extremely uncomfortable.
I do see now that I do not need heavy doses of Anabolics to get good results in the gym.
The minimal amount , If dosed correctly and " REAL ", you can make great gains.
Just MO !!!
I remember one time I was doing a Blend of Test E/ Mast E/ Tren E and after like 2 weeks I was, or I felt Toxic as F*** !!
I was taking 3CC's Mon/Wed/Fri and Yes I was getting strong, but the side effects were extremely uncomfortable.
I do see now that I do not need heavy doses of Anabolics to get good results in the gym.
The minimal amount , If dosed correctly and " REAL ", you can make great gains.
Just MO !!!
I guess I would have to say TREN. Although the sides I get are mild compared to what I read about. I do only use 50mg EOD OF acetate or 300 mgs a week the most of TREN E.
It does give me night sweats that I hate. Waking up soaked sucks. That is the worst of it though. I'm convinced it is dosed related. TREN is 5 X as anabolic as test, 5 times. Meaning taking 100mgd of tren A Day, which many do, would be about equivalent to taking 500 mgs a day of test or 3500 mgs a week. I get great results with 50 EOD and
d not many sides.
When parabolic wasDe by Negma France for human use it came in a 1.5cc amp containing 76.5 mgs of tren H. Everytim I took it I took 2 a week, most everyone I knew did same and the stuff was amazing. That is only 153 mgs a week, rarely did I know anyone to take 3 a week. Going by that, if what is sold today is real yren like what was in parabolic 100 mgs EOD of tren A would be about double the effective dose of parabolic and everyone knew parabolin was by far the strongest period.
50 mgs EOD is about 175 a week, much closer to the old parabolin dose And from own experience it works great.
Think about it 175 mg a week of tren is equal to 875 a week of test.
Sometimes after 6-8 weeks on dbol or androl I just get an overall shitty feeling and need to stop it for awhile.
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WOW, I HORE YOU LEARNED NOT TO LISTEN TO YOUTUBE IDIOTS, IT WILL GET TOU KILLED.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norman Plates
Using tresteline most supplement with letrozole it converts to estrogen so badly. If you were just using aimidex, noveldex or even aromesin it may not have been enough, as you saw.
I'm super gyno sensetive also but Ive also been doing this 30 years and know how to manage all and any problems I have.
If you need to get rid of gyno I'll tell you what to do and, for me, I worked 100% every time I've done it with 1 week.
Use just a small amount of letroze every day until it's gone which should be 4 or 5 days. NOVELDEX will not get rid of gyno. ARIMIDEX and aromesin may but letro will and quickly. Once it's gone you need to figure out what you need to take to prevent gyno problems in future.
Letro is 2.5 mg per pill or if liquid per ml. All I needed to use was one fourth of that dose or ..63 mgs for a few days. It's amazing how fast it is gone. Letro is so strong it about too strong to use as an ai
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I’d say Tren Ace when doing MWF shots. The heartburn was awful to the point where I considered stopping it lol. Then I read a post by someone somewhere saying that they started doing M-F shots starting at 25mg day and they had their heartburn drop drastically. So I tried it and damn if it didn’t work wonders. And that lead me down another path to do a Tren Ace only mini cycle for 6 or 7 weeks. Had good results felt good and blood work came back good too. This was circa 14-15.
ATM I am taking Tren E and only at 300mgs a week. I have to say that this Tren, compared to Tren A or pretty much any other Tren E I have used is STRONG and it kicks my ass when I try to sleep by giving me some F***** dreams, and I sweat so much I have to change shirts 2X throughout the nite.
Now that's some good shit !!!
letro is def the strongest and it will literally crush your estro to zero. i have seen lab work and estro from people were literally zero. i have also read that in some people that actually have full blown gyno it can get rid of it or at least drastically decrease it. i am fortunate enough not to have estro issues so i only use ai to crush mine when i get close to getting on stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgc648
as for good old huge, i am pretty sure i just saw that he is all messed up himself now from doing crazy dumb shit. i always go back to this with the amounts and crazy shit these guys on youtube social media or just in general. if you are using the amount and number of things they are using and you arent even close to being a monster then what's the point. 6ft 6in 180lbs peeled to the bone isnt impressive to me at all and can be done naturally. you dont need 10g of 20 different compounds to get that look. but then again once i hit my 30s i figured out a little bit goes a long way in the grand scheme of things.
micro dose that shit man and it will help with the sides. trust meQuote:
Originally Posted by Torres
I tolerate anabolics very well I don't get a lot of side effects and thank God I'm lucky with that but I would have to say tren fucks with me the most. I try to only use it once a year and I use low dosages I even use as low as 50 mg every other day what I can't stand about it is the night sweats I hate that waking up soaked and it's warm out in the air conditioning is on and you're freezing cold oh I hate that I mean the games I guess are worth it but I can't stand that but I don't get any really other side effects from itQuote:
Originally Posted by DaviBerserker
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i know you have probably already tried it but. have you ever attempted to micro dose it daily and keep test lower or none at all? i have had really good results and zero sides with both approaches. test either at zero or 1-200 per week hrt with both being micro dosed. be a good experiment for you to try out on the next runQuote:
Originally Posted by pgc648