I need some advice, which one is the best choice ? I cant seem to get an answer.
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I need some advice, which one is the best choice ? I cant seem to get an answer.
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I had the Maderna. First shot was fine. Second one is what can get you. It made me flu like for about 4-5 hours then it was over quick
i think they are both the same but different tech. but both react in the body the same. my oldest had to get it for work and she got the moderna one and the second one fucked her up bad. we had to keep my grand baby because she had a fever cough and the whole 9 yards for a couple days. not to freak you out about it and i am not an anti vaccer at all and if you are at risk i would damn sure get it. a friend of mine on active duty got the virus early on then got the first dose of vac then got brutal sick on the second one. 2 months later he was in the hospital bad off from catching the virus again. it is insane at how different it affects everyone.
Thanks ya'll, that's what I'm looking for. What's everyone's experience with the vaccine so far ? It's the effects on the heart and the facial paralysis that scares me, but damned if you don't get vaccinated and you're crazy if you do ? I've had Pneumococcal Pneumonia before and spent three weeks on a ventilator fighting for my life... at 55 now I don't think I'd be that lucky again... I also have a Mom that needs me now so yeah I'm going for it. Hey, as always I really appreciate everyone's advice !
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I've heard similar experiences from both. I know some who have gotten Pfizer and others who have gotten Moderna. Like Guns mentioned, I think the mechanism is slightly different but they do the same thing in the body. Some people are fine and some feel like crap after the second shot. A friend of mine got the Pfizer shot recently for work and the second dose made him feel pretty bad. He said he felt like he had the flu for a few days. I think the actual dose per shot for Moderna is actually higher than Pfizer, but due to the different mechanisms it may not be of any significance in efficacy. Both will cause your body to produce the spike protein giving your immune system a heads up on how to respond to it, so you'd probably be fine with either or.
I had the Pfizer a couple months ago and just felt like crap a couple days like with the flu shot. I caught Covid last fall (pre-delta) and was able to fight it off on my own so just had something like a very bad cold for 4 days but had breathing issues for a few weeks afterwards which then cleared up on its own.
no shot. caught the delta and was put out 3 weeks, then took about 6 more to feel normal again.. weirdest shit i have ever felt.. that shit was no flu.. i personally know an individual who died 2 days after the second shot. mind you he was very old but never the less. i also know a twenty something nurse who has heart issues after the second shot.. every one else i know who has had covid or the shot is fine.
im not a fan of the force applied to receive the shot and the obvious media munipulation in regards to information thats being distributed.. im not antivax but if it smells like shit and looks like shit well...
most folks i know got the phizer as to its accessability . one got the j&j.
No shot. Might get the Novavax when it comes out. Totally different carrier uses FAR less spike protein and should be WAY safer. Or just not get one all together.
I spent 20+ hours over 3 days in the cab of a truck training a guy who was told to get a covid test by HR due to lingering mild cough and other symptoms, it was positive. He took another 5 days later, still positive. I tested neg 2X on day 4 of my exposure and day 9. I never got a sniffle. Covid is my *****!
I had a heart attack 4 years ago. Fully recovered and no issues for me (so far) after the second Maderna d sad hot
My father in law, healthy man, seizures out of nowhere…couple of months and still not back to normal[emoji83]
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I talk to a lot of people every day about this stuff. Face to face. These stories are repeated again and again and again. The CDC website makes it nearly impossible to report adverse reactions so the data is manipulated.
Im losing count of all the elderly I have heard of who dropped dead within weeks of getting the shot and their death is labeled as "death by natural causes".
Just yesterday a guy says to me "My 83 year old grandma, perfectly healthy, died 2 weeks after being vaccinated." He is certain that the vaccine killed her.
They did not list her death as being caused by the vaccine.
Anyone who tries to question the manipulated VAERS data is labeled a dangerous threat. If you dont get vaccinated , they call you selfish and narcissistic.
There are way too many horror stories that the average person never hears about.
I dont want to argue this topic, and I respect those peeps who got the shot, many had no choice in the matter short of losing their entire livelihood.
I got the shot back in June, The J&J. All i experienced was being real tired for about 2 days and then i was back to normal.
Yes I know that its 67% efficacy is low, but the numbers from around the world seem to be better with an 85% efficacy. If I am wrong please forgive me.
Either way, now they have the booster shots. For J&J you have to wait 2 months before taking that booster.
I may just get the booster, still contemplating.
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Thanks for all the replies ! I'm just not sure what I want to do. I'm never around anyone anyway anymore since this started, like I'm a fugitive hiding from the law. I've always practiced good BSI anyway...but I do have an undetectable immune deficiency virus though which worries me. I just feel like I would be the one who winds up with the heart failure or whatever else ya know ? I just don't feel right about it. I did make an appointment but days later they didn't have it, jus gave me a vague time to come back.. telling me something maby ?
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I really wanted to have the Moderna but then I had the Pfizer, works fine tho!
The brainwashing of Americans has been extremely successful. I recently watched a fake interviewer asking people on the street if unvaccinated people should be arrested and held in jail until they take the vaccine. About 90% of the people interviewed said "Yes! Throw unvaccinated people in jail".
Biden just announced that he's sending federal agents out to raid small businesses & root out and punish unvaccinated with $14,000 fines.
nothing about any of this covid hype feels right. when any communication or discussion is immeditatly branded misinformation and shut down theres a problem. think of what comes next if this works.. all the people in power want is complete obedience, no choice, no question. do as you are told. thats what scares me not the shot. its future implications for society if this power play works. atleast here in america people feel that there is freedom of choice. this kinda says you only have the freedom to do as your told.. scary
shot no shot.. what ever. i want to travel so i know eventually i will have to get it but im holding out until more information is out. ive personally seen way to many negative consequences with people and no media outlet says anyhting. thats crazy.
Children are being vaccinated at schools across the country with ZERO parental consent. Unless you show up at school with your child, they assume you want your child vaccinated & go right ahead and force vaccinate your kids.
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Please watch this 15 minute video for a better understanding of the pandemic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq5UbZmvtLE
Looks like Youtube shut down the video of the Army Surgeon discussing the vaccine.
No shot, and no intention on getting it. Most of my family is vaccinated, and got the Pfizer vaccine. My elderly father ended up in the hospital, after his second dose, for 10 days. They danced around the question "is it from the vaccine?", but they were not able to identify one of the bacterias in his blood. He just got the booster, and has been sick for almost 2 weeks. I respect that everyone should have a choice, and it's not my place to try to change their mind.
The CDC changes numbers or doesnt report them at all. The British national registry does not lie like the CDC.
This is becoming a disease of the vaccinated but the government and media are manufacturing hatred for the unvaccinated.
Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age - by Alex Berenson - Unreported Truths
[emoji848]Anybody know right off if Bezos, Musk, or Benson got a Vaccine ?
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Looks like our left wing liberal governor is going to bring back mask mandates state wide. Last year when they required masks, I complied, this time, I am NOT wearing a mask anywhere.
They arrested people last year for not wearing masks. we will see what happens this time around. A lot of us are sick and tired of the non stop lies and bullshit.
Dont be surprised when they try to make unvaxxed Americans ID themselves with something like a yellow star of david, so they can be totally stripped of their rights, their businesses taken and socially ostracized. Eerily similar to historic events we thought could never happen here in America. Some public figures already saying the unvaccinated deserve to die. Biden called the unvaccinated murderers. When they get the unvaxxed down to manageable number, like 5-10%, thats when the vaccine enforcement will get even more extreme.
Nothing says "trust the science" like the FDA withholding Pfizer vaccine data for the next 55 years.
Still cant believe people think the vaccine is safe. Just today, talked to a lady who is suffering severe cardiac issues since being vaccinated 4 months ago. She said she has to take a beta blocker now every day and blood pressure meds. She said the vaccine has ruined her life.
Not everyone is hearing these stories.
Another lady I talked to today, who is 100% Pro vaccine told me she was sick in bed with a fever & severe body aches for 5 days after her booster shot, had to miss a week of work, and yet she was still mad at me for not being vaccinated. LOL
Here is the thing the mRNA vaxxes are the 3rd line of defense against illness. (*see blow for explanation) The "Vax" which was only defined as a vaccination within the last month because it was not one, only increases white blood cells which are there to fight off an infection AFTER you have it. (may/probably decreases 2nd tier responses to all other infections including covid) It does not help prevent you from getting it like a normal vax. You may not get sick, but you will still spread it and have the same viral load as an unvaxxed with fewer or no symptoms.
I will stick with my own immune system and not tamper with it. Also the vax decreases your body's ability to repair it's DNA. (FACT TAKEN FROM National Library of Medicine) "Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site."
First line of defense is our skin and mucus membranes. Viruses cannot just migrate through our skin and are caught in mucosal "traps" before infection can occur.
Second line is our innate non-specific immune defense. This is a rapid local response to viral/bacterial invaders at the immediate point of contact. Macrophages and neutrophils, interferon (anti microbial proteins created by our own body), and even fever.
When that lady came in and said "Ive been deathly sick for 5 days since getting my booster shot!"
I said "You got your second shot?"
She started screaming at me "NO!!! The booster shot is your 3rd shot!! Dont you know that?? Havent you had yours???"
I just said no and changed the subject. smh
Dzone it has become part of ideology now. Libs wear masks to virtue signal and if you are not vaxxed you are horrible scum.
If you look at a car and see someone in it, by themselves wearing a mask I bet it has a Biden/Harris sticker on it.
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I got the moderna and I feel fine. I hate fire for some reason
[emoji1787]I've been horrible scum since 97 so piss on'em I say ! Jipped Brother, I seen'm out on the Forest by-way out in the middle of nowhere in their car with a mask ! Maby if ya tangle with a cougar, bear, or have a rabid elk come lick ya ? Up here a majority are Subaru's with a "Coexist", Hillary, or some sort of pro LGBTQ related decals all over it.
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What they are doing to children in America is by far the worst thing about this scam. If I was a parent, I would be their worst fucking nightmare.
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This is how they pulled off the biggest scam in American history
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Here's Denmark stats. This is starting to turn into a pandemic of the vaccinated. I will never give in.
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