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I know orals are 2nd pass and harder on the liver than oil but I was thinking about if anyone has tried or what your thoughts would be about a cut cycle w/ cyp and a AMP's cut blend which is 50mgs each of prop/tren-a/mast-a. Then taking 25-50 mgs each of anavar and winny? Since anavar is vary mild and winny seems to, according to many, better in oral form, why not? Thoughts?
i have used multiple oral compounds at one time for 6-8 week stints during preps. var/win/provi as well as win/provi/halo and even added in drol for short stints with them as well.
good liver protection lots of cardio and a nice healthy clean diet are a must. adding tren on top of that will further the issues but again following the above will help off set the stress on the liver. the liver is the biggest concern for most but it isnt what is going to get you in the long run, it's your lipids. everyone thinks that var is mild safe blah blah blah but it absolutely hammers the piss out of your lipids even at low doses. it will drive your hdl into single digits and crank your ldl through the roof. so again another protection method should be used to be as safe as possible. adding in a supplement like nialor and or any other cholesterol lowering supps can and do help. my liver values got cranked up last year during prep but my lipids stayed in the normal range with proper supplementation
Var is pretty easy on the liver. Doing that with a low-ish dose of winny for 6 weeks should be no prob. I would take a liver support supp just as precaution.
I have been on 30 mg ed of var and had a physical with biometrics. Liver values were perfect and not elevated at all.
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First off orals are not as liver toxic as they want you to believe. I base that on my own research over years. I've looked at every major medical journal to try to find an incident of steroid induced liver failure or hepatitis and have yet to find a single one where anabolics was the sole cause.
I found alcohol obviously, Tylenol is a huge cause of liver problems but not even 1 from oral steroids.
My own theory is the simplest one. Everyone knows oral pass the liver twice. When a drug is studied
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Yes I've used more than one oral and am still healthy and aliveQuote:
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I've run 50mg drol and 50mg dbol at same time...really not sure it's any better than simply upping one or the other only
I don't think it is. Just rasing the ADROL to 100 would be fine.Quote:
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I've done same, androl with dbol. Nothing mind blowing.
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