Interesting medical article GH/INSULIN

Use of Growth Hormone, IGF-I, and Insulin for Anabolic Purpose: Pharmacological Basis, Methods of Detection, and Adverse Effects

I have felt this, what this article says, to be true for a very long time. GH is way overrated, should never even be considered by anyone not competing (unless you just have excess $). In the article GH is referred to in MGS. If you multiply MG by .67 you will get equivalent IUs.
It states what I always knew. GH alone does about nothing, maybe burn some fat. Gh with anabolic steroids will not do anything unless used over a very long period of time. Year or more.
Insulin, that you can get for $25 is more anabolic than GH. Just need to watch when its taken and it can make you fat if you lean in that direction. 12.5 mcgs of T3 will take care of that.
Also, the doses I have heard being used are just not very smart in any way. 8-20 IUs a day. After about 4 you are completely wasting the drug, upping the sides, doing yourself no good at all and making the chances you end up lean but pregnant looking very, very high.
I am very skeptical of GH. I think the only real way for it to make any significant difference is to use 4 ius a day with 10IUs insulin(regular insulin) after training along with a small dose of thyroid(t3) and anabolic steroids. Over a period of many Months not weeks.

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Great read!

Very interesting. I stopped slin because of fat gain. Never used T3.

absolutely correct man. and what most fail to realize is as you pointed out the effects arent that dramatic and at about the 2 month or so mark it completely shuts down your insulin sensitivity at pretty much any dose. so you are spot on with your observation. and to top that off if you are getting growth in your muscles from the amounts you are using you are also going to be getting bone and organ growth at a much higher rate as well. you nailed it off that article. the best effect one can and will see with extended periods of use is fat loss and maybe a tad bit of joint health. that's it for a hefty price tag

More I do look into this more I have to believe that the combination of HGH, insulin, possibly IGF-1 and a bit of t3.Was the cause of the tremendous difference in size while coming in with better conditioning in bodybuilders of 1990s vs 1980s. Guys like Lee Haney, Bob Paris, Brian Bucanan, Vince Taylor ect had just as good genetics as anyone in 1990s but lacked use of hgh/insulin/thyroid. It's the only obviously difference between the groups but the difference I bodies is just unbelievable. Look below.
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