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Iver had 2 mild panic attacks this week I think its time for donating blood again on more of a regular basis . I just have a feeling my hemoglobin and hematocrit are high again. Yesterday with my lower back back inline and the whole body asone again I just put up some weight with ease I have to tone down the test
My point guys take these blood checks regular getting it done
I have developed secondary polycythemia and homochromatisis.
I have a standing order from being on TRT I will post forms needed in next post to get order if in TRT to donate more often..
What I have done that helps me alot is use test prop or test ace instead of long ester test. Long ester test suppresses hepiciden more than short in my opinion. And also I do this to blast without adding as much testosterone.
Example:
TRT cyp 150mg wk
Test prop or test ace 35mg a day
Trest Ace (MENT) 12.5mg to 25mg a day
So above is Test base of blast or cycle. Trest ace (MENT) DOES NOT RAISE RED BLOOD CELLS!!!!
Next part of stack any of following
Primo 700wk with Mast 400-700wk
Deca 400wk with Mast 400-700wk
I use mast with deca helps alot mast and me or buddy's!!!
EQ I DO NOT TOUCH IT ANYMORE !!!
DHB SEEMS TO DO SAME TO ME AS EQ!!!
ANADROL DOESN'T MESS WITH ME!!
Deca doesn't with Test lower.
☆For what ever the reason if I use hgh and Novothyral I don't have to do phlebotomy but every 3-4 months even with high Testosteone long ester!!!
When I use tren I use test around 400wk and have no crazy spike at all but I don't use much Ment with tren though so just test in tren stacks..
Anyway I need to go do phlebotomy now thanks for reminder. 1 month ago I was 16.8 hemoglobin in TRT labs.
With high test long ester I Gotta do phlebotomy every 3-5wks. With trest (MENT) route I slowed down phlebotomy's to every 6-10wks.
If i use EQ i gotta do them more than 1x a month and DHB seems to do same again..
Here are forms needed at RED CROSS for TRT fda requirements necessay for phlebotomy. Plus diagnosis of Secondary Polycythemia by TRT Dr!!!
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that tres in most people doesnt cause any impact on most health markers. i think it is a great sub for test from time to time just to get a little silly without cranking up all of your markers
Donating blood is a good idea? I aint ever done it. Do they ask if youre on TRT when you donate? Do you feel better after giving blood?
High blood levels cause panic attacks?? Just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUZO
I will post my labs from July and Jan. Will make thread tonight.... I had bad lipids and glucose in July after long transformation contest I did. I was rebounding from coming off Novothyral 12 days and off tren 3 weeks after 8 weeks and Anadrol 8 wks. Lol!!Quote:
Originally Posted by guns01
Labs in July were to close to contest and I chanced it plus he randomly tested TSH and free t4 on those labs.
Labs in Jan g2g on lipids ran low dose trest ace from Augest with Test prop, primo then DHB red blood was high, did mini cut with tren ace 45 days only 30mg tbol till november then back to trest ace low dise, test TRT 125 cyp, primo 300mg, DHB 525-700wk, test prop MWF stopped all 8 days before draw and all was good. A1C, glucose, lipids but my HDL was in 20s but I used mast and proviron too...
If i leave mast, proviron and tren alone for 8 weeks prior labs using test, trest ace and mast 200 HDL is in 40s times before those...
Drove up at gym, will make thread showing what I did exactly called "lipids trest ace" later and show it isn't hurtung lipids for sure!!!
Trest ace even at 12.5mg to 25mg a day with test cyp 100wk and test prop added total 350-450mg test wk feels and behaves like 800mg test wk min with trest ace at that dose and red blood is better. Much better IT DOES NOT AFFECT RED BLOOD.
Here is recent labs from Jan on what i did and hgh used 3.3iu generic and always dose hgh after lab draw!!!
Had neck and back inflammation and was popping Tylenol and Toradol during that time. Red blood was still high DHB I had to do 2 phlebotomy's in December 19.3 hemo then 2 wks later 17.4 hemo. DHB did it to me last time too. So not for me!!!
Also last July of 17 labs good and good Jan 18 last year. I only did phlebotomy on trest, test, even with Anadrol 3x from Sept 17 to june 18. So I figured out me and Trest ace (MENT) to be together!! Lol!
Excuse this over post i was driving to gym.
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Yes, anxiety, pressure in head and body, ringing of ears, agitation, stress, high bp and tendon pain!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pgc640
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that's bad ass that you actually posted your no shit results. mine were similar with no impact on my lipids rbc hemocrit etc.... i only did a 30 day run but i would bet you could get by with a pretty hefty run safely as long as you dont have estro issues. i dont but i read that it can cause some serious havoc in those that are super sensitive. i liked it solo with no test whatsoever myself and had no issues with sex drive etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by Musclemechanic76
you do anything particular to try and keep your hdl up? also something you can look into that i use to control mine without meds is a product called nialor. i have ran some damn super heavy cycles with tren var and dex in them and even though my hdl still tanked my total cholesterol stayed between 150-185 and my ldl stayed under 100. so it is pretty damn effective for me. the only trade off is i havent ironed anything out with keeping my hdl high. i would have to go and look back but i think it tanked down into the teens with the var and other prep stuff i was using
I use var alot. If I leave mast, proviron and not too much AI, use Nolva instead I can come up to 40 HDL!!
But I am not estro sensitive myself either.
I take
NAC 1200mg
B6 100mg
Garlic 1000mg
Promise oil 3x day
Fish oil 3x day
Flax oil 3x day
Apple Cider vinegar 3x day
Magnesium oxide 500mg a day
Cinnamon 1000mg 2x day
COq10 100mg
Multi vit over 50 no iron!!
That about covers it.
I will start
Inosilol 1500-3000mg a day on orals
Choline 1500-3000mg same above
Methionine 3000-5000mg on orals
Above oral route and a combo product all the time with no orals
With Glutathione 100mg 3x wk pinned for oral cleanse!!!
But Trest ace an answer to us with hemoglobin issues and it all stems from hepicedin suppression from mainly testosterone, DHB and EQ.
I will try trest ace and Trest e alone. It's to figure out good dose on own. What u come up with???
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It all depends on if u have red blood build up and how much testosterone suppresses hepiciden. Some of us, I notice that run alot of eq and gear for 20 years developed thick blood!! It's hard for heart to pump and increases risk for stroke or heart attack. When I am close to 20 hemo I feel strain on my heart!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzone
If u just wanna donate don't tell them shit! As long as u do labs and check CBC often u will see hemoglobin and hct raised on bloods or not. Some guys can never have to do it others 3x year and some of us need order as needed for controlling it especially on TRT that is when we speak because our Dr has to send forms!!!
If hemo too high without order of diagnosis they can deny u!!!
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take a look at the nialor for lipids for real. read the reviews on it also because they arent bs. i took mine from 250s down to 150s with no issues at all other than a little flushing. i honestly think it works better than statins do with no side effects for most of us. we also use pretty much the exact same supps. i am going to give some krill oil a try to see if i can drive up my hdl with that product better than normal fish oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Musclemechanic76
i ran my trest ace at 100mg ed for 30 days straight. that seemed to be a good spot for me and what i was suggested to try out. i did put in 40mg of nolva just to be cautious as a a back up but i dont think i need it since i didnt get a spike in estro at all. only bad thing i will say about the trest is a little pip burn but it was always temporary and not that bad. mine was more of trial run to see if i could keep from getting an impact on my health markers. the way it looked to me, you could toss in tren or whatever you normally have issues with test and it would cause a fraction of the normal issues and you wouldnt have to worry about mr happy not being happy.
Lets get those labs done...I can help