cramps/muscle spasms

For the last month or so I've been getting lower back spasms or my calves will knot up on me some nights to the point where I'm pacing the house rather than laying down at bedtime because I feel tightness like I'm about to cramp. And when I do, OMG I fly out of bed in horrible pain. I'm plenty hydrated and have increased my potassium and electrolytes but to no avail. I've lost 28 lbs in last 4 months and the last 10 has really been when I've noticed the issue. I'm at about 12% and want to get to about 8% before I'm done cutting. Currently taking 250 mgs of sust, 100 mgs of masteron-p and 200 mgs of EQ every 3-4 days. I got off the winny-v but that hasn't helped. Any thoughts on what I can take to ease the cramps? I really don't want to back off my supplement or training regime.

I have this too on occasion .... BIG BUMP

In the past taurine has helped. Some say it is for back pumps but I have fount it helps with all cramping. I always keep some around.

I have heard the same taurine and potassium?? I hate it when I feel like I gotta stretch and just cant?? Even thinking about it sucks.

yep taurine is great. start at 2-3g and increase it from there if need be. i am pretty sure this happens to all of us that train really hard and it sucks ass big time

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Originally Posted by lex-ttp

For the last month or so I've been getting lower back spasms or my calves will knot up on me some nights to the point where I'm pacing the house rather than laying down at bedtime because I feel tightness like I'm about to cramp. And when I do, OMG I fly out of bed in horrible pain. I'm plenty hydrated and have increased my potassium and electrolytes but to no avail. I've lost 28 lbs in last 4 months and the last 10 has really been when I've noticed the issue. I'm at about 12% and want to get to about 8% before I'm done cutting. Currently taking 250 mgs of sust, 100 mgs of masteron-p and 200 mgs of EQ every 3-4 days. I got off the winny-v but that hasn't helped. Any thoughts on what I can take to ease the cramps? I really don't want to back off my supplement or training regime.

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Dehydration... u need to balance your sodium, potassium, magnesium or start supplementing them aka electrolytes and a magnesium and potassium supp.

Since many guys do hydrate pretty good who lift I also can’t suggest taurine enough for your issue. Try 2-3 grams a day to start my buddy uses 4grams daily for back cramping on gear. It’s a common side!

Taurine and balance your minerals.

Does your lower back bruise up lex?

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Originally Posted by DethKlok

Does your lower back bruise up lex?

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No bruises on lower back just spasms.

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Read up on magnesium an add that in.There are several types and they do not all work the same

Fuck this. Another sleepless night. I'm off to the supplement store to purchase some Taurine. Thank you everyone for helping a brother out and the quick replies. Not sure how much longer I can maintain the sleepless nights, missed training days and general misery! I'll keep everyone posted as to how it works. The only other thing I can think of is seeing if my doc will script me some muscle relaxers but I'm thinking those are dished out about as much as opiates these days!

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Originally Posted by lex-ttp

Fuck this. Another sleepless night. I'm off to the supplement store to purchase some Taurine. Thank you everyone for helping a brother out and the quick replies. Not sure how much longer I can maintain the sleepless nights, missed training days and general misery! I'll keep everyone posted as to how it works. The only other thing I can think of is seeing if my doc will script me some muscle relaxers but I'm thinking those are dished out about as much as opiates these days!

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Get the mag, it is a muscle relaxer

What's the mag BABY1? Is it a prescription muscle relaxer or OTC?

Also, update on my cramping - I went to the supplement store last Saturday and bought some Taurine. Started taking 2 grams/day for first couple then increased to 3 grams/day and haven't cramped up since! That stuff really works! Thanks everyone for letting me know about it. I still have tightness in lower back however so a muscle relaxer might actually make sense.

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Originally Posted by lex-ttp

What's the mag BABY1? Is it a prescription muscle relaxer or OTC?

Also, update on my cramping - I went to the supplement store last Saturday and bought some Taurine. Started taking 2 grams/day for first couple then increased to 3 grams/day and haven't cramped up since! That stuff really works! Thanks everyone for letting me know about it. I still have tightness in lower back however so a muscle relaxer might actually make sense.

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you can raise the taurine up a gram or 2 more and it wont hurt anything if the tightness is still there. lots of people use it with dbol and drol to get rid of the dreaded low back pumps that are pretty constant with those compounds. the mag is just magnesium supps man. look at chelated mag if you are going to go that route. it is the one that is best absorbed by the body

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Originally Posted by BABY1

Read up on magnesium an add that in.There are several types and they do not all work the same

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Baby beat me to it. I use 400 mg mag citrate 2x ed. I rarely have cramps any more.

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Originally Posted by lex-ttp

What's the mag BABY1? Is it a prescription muscle relaxer or OTC?

Also, update on my cramping - I went to the supplement store last Saturday and bought some Taurine. Started taking 2 grams/day for first couple then increased to 3 grams/day and haven't cramped up since! That stuff really works! Thanks everyone for letting me know about it. I still have tightness in lower back however so a muscle relaxer might actually make sense.

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magnesium

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Baby beat me to it. I use 400 mg mag citrate 2x ed. I rarely have cramps any more.

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I used this for a colonoscopy prep. I cramped like a mofo haha

Lex, are referring to back pumps?? The only tried and true supplement used by lifters especially those taking oral aas like dbol, drol, winny, etc. is Taurine. Everything else is icing on the cake and will help you but not like Taurine.

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Originally Posted by guns01

yep taurine is great. start at 2-3g and increase it from there if need be. i am pretty sure this happens to all of us that train really hard and it sucks ass big time

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I used this dosing and it worked. I had to up on the dose and split it up through out the day but it helped me.

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Originally Posted by DethKlok

I used this for a colonoscopy prep. I cramped like a mofo haha

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the chelated version is better imo and it doesnt give you the nasty dreaded jungle shits. well for most normal people haha

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Originally Posted by guns01

the chelated version is better imo and it doesnt give you the nasty dreaded jungle shits. well for most normal people haha

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ZMA wouldn't be a bad route.

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Originally Posted by DethKlok

ZMA wouldn't be a bad route.

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yeah that would be a pretty good one to add in as well.

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I used this for a colonoscopy prep. I cramped like a mofo haha

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Yeah that is concentrated in multiple GRAMS not 400 mg. If you wish mag oxide is also good. it is the salt attached to the mag molecule. citrate is a natural salt and oxide is inorganic. Oxide is what you find the most. It is what I have right now.

$00 mg before bed is fine for most folk and helps me a lot. if it is bad then 400moring and 400 eve (with food or milk)

OK, the cramps are back, just as I started my pre-summer cycle (winny-v, tren-a and EQ). So I just picked up another 300 cap bottle of taurine, 500 mg's per cap and reread this thread. I can't remember how much 1 gram of powder equates to in 500 mg caps. Can someone refresh my memory? Thanks!

1 gram is 1000 milligrams