Re: how much gh is enough?
start at 2iu for a couple weeks then move up to 3. you should hit the sweet spot at 5 or 6iu and unless you have the funds to back it up their is really no need to go up to 10ius ed. 5-6ius should get you lean, help your joints out tremendously and you will even get a little muscle growth out of it. my approach with anything is try to get the most out of the least possible. also the reason i suggest starting at 2iu and working up is the cts. if you jump straight up to 4-6ius right out the gate, you can go ahead and stand by for no sleep and lots and lots of pain. trust me it is def a self correcting error
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Awesome those are the goals am hoping to get out of it. I planned on starting at 2 and slowly bumping up to 6 max depending on how I felt that's how my buddy was telling me to run it. I deffintly don't have the funds to run anything past 6ius.
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Awesome those are the goals am hoping to get out of it. I planned on starting at 2 and slowly bumping up to 6 max depending on how I felt that's how my buddy was telling me to run it. I deffintly don't have the funds to run anything past 6ius.
you can play around with 4-5. that's where i like it best when funds are tight. also keep in mind that after a few months you will need to add in some t4 at around 100mcg a day due to surpression from the gh. lot's of people dont know this and it slows down are stops their gh from fully working it's magic. it also surpresses you slin production also but if you arent trying to gain that is no biggie
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I did not know about the t4.
I've read a little about the slin production. I am not sure how I feel about running slin to counteract it.
I want to gain but it can be a slow gain. I'm looking to get as shredded as I can. I'm around 220 right now, bf is still a lot higher then I'd like It to be Maybe somewhere around 15%-18%ish percent, on the higher side. I Want to get under 10% , maintain it and then never go above 12% again. But I want to make sure I at least stay over 200 lbs.
My biggest weakness is sticking to diet, I follow it for a while slip up a little and it's down hill from there. I also lack knowledge is nutrition and dieting so that doesn't help to much.
I wasn't giving a lot of effort into my workouts and even less into my nutriton, I drink almost every night which screwed a lot up. Right now in lucy, I have been sober for about 4 months, I workout everyday and it lit the spark and love for lifting I have been missing for a few years again. I'm ready to get home at this point and be able to get on cycle and more importantly get a meal plan together and give it my all.
Re: how much gh is enough?
The "cts" was mentioned - what is that?
Re: how much gh is enough?
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The "cts" was mentioned - what is that?
carpal tunnel syndrom. if you go up to quick haha, you will know it just as quickly. it sucks bad
Re: how much gh is enough?
Gotcha! Yeah, I felt some of that from only 2IUs of Eurotropin HGH, but my IGF jumped rather significantly. I am seriously thinking of dropping to 1IU for a week or so, then upping it again after my Median Nerve Entrapment is fixed so I do not confuse the effects of the HGH with that of the nerve entrapment.
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I totally missed the t4 thing, i wonder if my gh isnt being utilized as best it should be.
Re: how much gh is enough?
throwing in around 100mcg/day of T4 seems to help alot...I did this myself....I can't fully explain why T4 is better than T3 because i don't understand that as much but I got the T4 anyway because I trusted everyone's advice on here
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mikeyg51
throwing in around 100mcg/day of T4 seems to help alot...I did this myself....I can't fully explain why T4 is better than T3 because i don't understand that as much but I got the T4 anyway because I trusted everyone's advice on here
it's pretty simple with the t3/t4 and gh. gh shuts down or slows the output of your natural t3. now adding in t3 will further stop or shut down t3 production. t4 on the other hand stimulates the release of your natural t3 output ie.... it tricks your body into producing what it needs. the same aspect apples to normal people with t3 that is declining. the doc normally wont just throw them on to t3 right out of the gate and will try to bring the output up to par with t4 first. same applies here, you dont want to further surpress your t3 output by putting in external t3
Re: how much gh is enough?
With T4 use, your body will never produce more T3 than it needs...any extra T4 will simply be excreted from the body unused. If you take T3, you can raise your T3 levels to abnormally high levels. This can help with fat loss, but you will also be increasing your body temp, so you have to be careful. T3 makes me feel like crap when I take it. I do not even notice I am taking T4 (with my HGH)...which always makes me wonder if it is doing anything. :)
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you can play around with 4-5. that's where i like it best when funds are tight. also keep in mind that after a few months you will need to add in some t4 at around 100mcg a day due to surpression from the gh. lot's of people dont know this and it slows down are stops their gh from fully working it's magic. it also surpresses you slin production also but if you arent trying to gain that is no biggie
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I have some gh that his been in the refrigerator for 2 years. I bout forgot I had it. I only have about 600 ius. 6 kits. Do you guys think they are still good?
I just quit using gh and just do trt and dont have any issues but I guess maybe I should try the gh again. But if they are too old, then fuggit I wasted a thousand plus dollars on the shit lol
But seriously, I feel pretty good on just test, good energy, can still build muscle and can get pretty lean with diet and training, so am not sure I want to commit to the long term program of hgh until I feel I really need it.
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I have some gh that his been in the refrigerator for 2 years. I bout forgot I had it. I only have about 600 ius. 6 kits. Do you guys think they are still good?
I just quit using gh and just do trt and dont have any issues but I guess maybe I should try the gh again. But if they are too old, then fuggit I wasted a thousand plus dollars on the shit lol
But seriously, I feel pretty good on just test, good energy, can still build muscle and can get pretty lean with diet and training, so am not sure I want to commit to the long term program of hgh until I feel I really need it.
it is still good dzone that is as long as you have kept it in the fridge the entire time. now with gh unlike test, using it isnt going to blunt your natural production like with test. you are still going to get you rems sleep boost and your during and post training boost naturally. if i were you i would take it at 1-3ius just for the added tendon health, anti aging and other health benefits it provides.