and of course the answer is never. i can set a new p.r. at the gym or in a meet and immediately i am thinking about my next lift and busting the p.r. i just set. this sport (powerlifting ) is crazy, we all have to be masochists. the only time we are making satisfactory gains is coming back from a traumatic injury, and then you know we are pushing the recovery faster than the doctor want's. absolutely nuts,, i love it so!!