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So been on var at about 60mg ed test e at 300mg a week and deca 50 mg a week... the var cycle has been around 5 weeks now and feeling exhausted all of a sudden but can't sleep or wake up regularly to pee or just wake up. My right side towards the back kinda aches a bit so stopped the var a few days ago and have continued on with my liver, fish oil and amino acids. I'm thinking it's my kidneys but didn't think at that low a dose var would affect it that negatively..?? Water intake could be higher, stopped taking my creatine a few weeks back cause the same spot was really aching, the aching subsided a day or so after stopping the creatine. I'm goin to the vitamin shop on the weekend to get some??? Any supps or herbs... you can suggest.? I'm thinkin I just need a cleanse.? Cheers

I honestly don't think Var was the issue brother. My first thought honestly is are you sure it's var you got? Very often it's counterfeit and may more likely be winni or who knows what else, so how much trust in your source you have is an important factor. For me I run Var at 100mg with no sides and I'm just as prone to sides as the next guy with aas. May be worth digging a little deeper but I'm skeptical that Var if it is in fact Var is the real issue here.

I've always felt I was really prone to AAS sides. What I've learned with my competition prep is I think side effects from AAS for me have a lot to do with my conditioning and weight. When I was bulking, dropped cardio and had a lot of fat and water on me and no conditioning whatsoever I felt like crap. I'm sure my cholesterol and BP were through the roof and I know many of my lab values were quite skewed....and I just didn't feel very good. That's why this competition run with stuff I've never used before like Tren mast and var worried me a bit. But I've experienced very few side effects and I'm up at 1000 mg of tren and 1000 mg of mast now and other than an attitude problem I really have no NOTICABLE side effects. For me I attribute that to Being lean and conditioning. I honestly don't know if there's any real science behind that but that's what I have personally experienced. What I'm getting at for you is that seems like a very low-dose to be experiencing sides but then again everybody is different. I remember your last post and again I would say if you're having a recurring problem you need to get labs and perhaps see a doctor.

Great advice MountainMan and Gusto.

Thanks for the laugh this morning gusto one cracked me up cause it is so me lately and I take nothing .
What is my excuse?lol

'other than an attitude problem"

tizzy, I agree, time to get some basic bloods run

Ya I guess I should. Maybe I'm just afraid of all the questions that come with the blood work request...

Hard to say brother

I laid off the var about 4 days ago I guess now, pain or uncomfortablness has subsided the back side area. Still really lethargic though. The var is from a good source and well known lab. Started clomid at 30mg day and aromasin 20mg day about 6 days ago, again a very very trusted source and one of the best labs around... don't know if it's the clomid, too high or not high enough and or the aromasin too high or not high enough..??

Guns chime in pls. Ya know me ;)

without a set of bloods i am just guessing here but it sounds to me like you may be having liver stress issues or kidney/bp issues. it could be one or the other. when it subsides after a few days of dropping orals that would lead me to lean toward liver stress. i would avoid anything that is stressing out your liver for a good amount of time and see if that helps. that is if you arent going to get some labs done