Wifes Thyroid

My wife had her thyroid taken out because of cancer reasons about a year ago. They have her on Levothyroxine 175 a day. she was tired at 100 and 150 so they settled on 175. i think its MC not MG. anyways she decided she wanted to take T3 as well to lose a tad bit of weight since her metabolism is so damn slow. She runs and does cardio after we get done lifting but she still has a little trouble losing weight. I think she does about 200mc a day. She takes her medication in the am, 100mc around lunch and 100mc around time to go home around 5. If she were to ramp it up to 400mc a day is there any side effects that she would encounter seeing as she no longer has a thyroid? She eats very clean and excercises every single day but it still doesn't seem to help the weight. She had her thyroid checked and its within normal ranges but we here don't do normal ranges obviously. I told her maybe to cycle high doses to low doses every two months. Would she even need to cycle i guess i'm asking as she doesn't have a thyroid to fuck up. what would you guys do in this situation?

Not sure I'll bump this for guns he will know bit I would think she could run high dose since she has no thyroid

it kinda makes me sketchy making a suggestion on increasing t3 even though she needs it due to her removal. if it were me i would increase it slowly by 25mcg maybe a wk until she starts seeing the scale move down. got to be very careful with t3 cause it can effect the heart, make hair fall out and do some pretty nasty stuff to ones body. keep an eye on racing heart and anything like that. also the half life of t3 is somewhere around 24-48 hours so you have to be very careful with overlap and accumulation of the dose.

I am surprised they do not have her on a T3/T4 combo such as Armor Thyroid, weird? Not sure if she is a kale eater as Kale is such a big popular thing now but isn't good to eat it a lot when one has thyroid issues even though she doesn't have her thryroid, the t4 is to replace it and it sounds like she has symptoms of hypo. If the TSH is above 3, that is considered getting hypo by endos. I am no doc but have personal and family experience with thyroid issues. If it were me, I would ask why I wasn't taking a combo to begin with. and would most def not self treat with this

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Originally Posted by BABY1

I am surprised they do not have her on a T3/T4 combo such as Armor Thyroid, weird? Not sure if she is a kale eater as Kale is such a big popular thing now but isn't good to eat it a lot when one has thyroid issues even though she doesn't have her thryroid, the t4 is to replace it and it sounds like she has symptoms of hypo. If the TSH is above 3, that is considered getting hypo by endos. I am no doc but have personal and family experience with thyroid issues. If it were me, I would ask why I wasn't taking a combo to begin with. and would most def not self treat with this

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if i read correctly baby1, she had the entire thyroid gland removed. and if that is the case the t4 really couldnt do its job of increasing t3. i realize we have both active t4 and t3 but the t4 is the signaler for t3 if i am not mistaken. i am assuming that with the t3 only they are doing what someone would do with zero test production, they are replacing what the body doesnt produce with a chemical compound.

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Originally Posted by guns01

if i read correctly baby1, she had the entire thyroid gland removed. and if that is the case the t4 really couldnt do its job of increasing t3. i realize we have both active t4 and t3 but the t4 is the signaler for t3 if i am not mistaken. i am assuming that with the t3 only they are doing what someone would do with zero test production, they are replacing what the body doesnt produce with a chemical compound.

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That is why I was wondering why she wasn't put on a t4 t3 combo med? Just like menopausal women, docs usually only prescribe estrogen when we really need progesterone and test too. I just think when things are removed all should be replaced or there will be an imbalance. Seems like the t4 alone is making her levels "normal " but she isn't feeling so great at that high dose.

Armor thyroid contains both t3 and t4. My sis and cousin started this awhile ago and feel better than being on t4 alone. My aunt also had no thyroid and has only been on t4 for years.

I would up the dose upon Dr recommendation. I went hyper thyroid and it caused a lot of trouble.

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Armor thyroid contains both t3 and t4. My sis and cousin started this awhile ago and feel better than being on t4 alone. My aunt also had no thyroid and has only been on t4 for years.

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yeah i knew about the armor. that's crazy they are getting good results off of just the 4 when they dont have thyroids either. now thinking about it, the combo prob would be more effective or maybe we dont know the doc's mindset by doing on one or the other. scary thing about to much t3 or t4 is what it can do to the heart which is what freaks me out. seems like women run into more issues with thyroid and hormones in general than men do for the most part. the pair of women i know that are in their upper 30s with thyroid issues now are self induced from piss poor contest prep with coaches that gave them quick fixes. now both of them are jacked up and got way over weight and they still havent got it under control

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Originally Posted by guns01

yeah i knew about the armor. that's crazy they are getting good results off of just the 4 when they dont have thyroids either. now thinking about it, the combo prob would be more effective or maybe we dont know the doc's mindset by doing on one or the other. scary thing about to much t3 or t4 is what it can do to the heart which is what freaks me out. seems like women run into more issues with thyroid and hormones in general than men do for the most part. the pair of women i know that are in their upper 30s with thyroid issues now are self induced from piss poor contest prep with coaches that gave them quick fixes. now both of them are jacked up and got way over weight and they still havent got it under control

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So true, seems hard to get it under control and again, its possible that with having no thyroid, docs have a different approach. I have hashimotos Thyroiditis and my thyroid antibodies are sky high but the rest of the thyroid tests are still normal. I really think the way I eat and live has helped the results so far cause when the doc gave me t4 I didn't take it anyway, go figure,lol.

My father has had heart disease since his 50's and is 78 now. he just went into major hyper thyroid mode and afibed like crazy. The culprit was too much iodine in the blood now they have him on stuff and he is hypo again. case in point is, the thyroid is tricky, like you said guns, and can be a hard thing to regulate.

Just be careful everyone

Yeah he only gave her t4. We bought the t3 and at first she was careful with it till it made her feel better as far as mood and sleepiness. I think that was about 100mc a day for that with her t4. She went up to t3 200mc a day slowly. Nothing as far a weight is doing anything. Mostly wondering if taking these doses long term is bad for her. Sort of wondering what normal doses are for people who have no thyroid like her i guess. People on actual doctor type websites have doses all over the place. some people going nuts on low doses and some in crazy ranges prescribed by doctors saying their life sucks still with depression and they get fat so i have no idea from there. We usually know more than doctors do collectively. I still cant believe a doctor prescribed my ex's husband test cause he couldn't get her pregnant. She isn't hypo, I don't know what symptoms your talking about as far as that goes. She was tired with low t4 doses. Doc gave her more and she started feeling a tad better. Added t3 slowly increasing dose and she feels so much better. I figure right now she is how a normal person should feel. Its just the weight she accumulated that isn't coming off between her thyroid shutting down from cancer and them removing it. I think we will try going up 25 a week. Keep an eye on things. Check blood pressure every week and so forth. How would we get the doc to prescribe her t3 though. I asked him about giving her both and he said it isn't necessary. i don't think he will give both.

Oh and just an added tidbit lol. Its been a year since her surgery. We lift and she....not me....does cardio. She....not me...lol eats clean. Very clean. Also her sex drive took a nosedive there for a while. I give her 10mg test a week and shes back to normal there. Gonna swap that out for anavar though. She liked that a few years back. Keep her out of my stash.