HCG during PCT question

How much should I use and when? I have never used it before but would like it to this time since I have been on for so long. So how much should i be using and when should i be using it?

how much test were you using weekly?

Ya I would like to know this as well...??? I was taking 900 teste and 600 deca


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Are you coming off completely? Doing the clomid/nolva protocol as well?

Well I blasted then cruised then blasted again.
My first blast was 500mg test e, 400mg deca, 50mg/ed prov and the first 4 week dbol 50mg/ed
Then I cruised at around 200mg test e every week for a pretty long time
Then I blasted again 750mg test e, 450mg deca, 100mg var/ed, 600mg eq, 50mg dbol/ed first 4 weeks prov 50mg/ed for a few weeks
After after about 10 weeks or so I dropped the prov and the deca and was only running eq and test e and var.

AI i was using adex and formeron but i switched from back from adex to aromain for my second blast.

I am coming off completely and will not be juicing again for a while do to a career switch I will not be able to for a pretty long time.
My PCT will be clomid and aromasin I have never used nolva
I am not to worried about losing a bunch of gains because I need to lose about 20lbs anyway.

I have probably been "on" including cruising for over a year.

Im open to any recommendations. I was just looking to boost my recovery with the HCG i might be picking some up in a trade.

i say go with clomid and torem. if you use the hcg after you stop all your test it is going to further suppress you. you are far better off pct with those 2 and keep maybe the armosin in there to control estro rebound. read up on hcg man, yes it does suppress your natural test production and it should be used during a cycle to stimulate your boys bit in turn it will shut down the recovery process when no external test is present

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Originally Posted by guns01

i say go with clomid and torem. if you use the hcg after you stop all your test it is going to further suppress you. you are far better off pct with those 2 and keep maybe the armosin in there to control estro rebound. read up on hcg man, yes it does suppress your natural test production and it should be used during a cycle to stimulate your boys bit in turn it will shut down the recovery process when no external test is present

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I have heard this before and thats one of the reasons i asked before i decided to use it. I have a buddy who also uses it but he always ran it on cycle. I know people who have ran torem before to they like it.
What would you recommend for a dosing protocol with clomid and torem? I already have clomid and aromasin so I dont mind picking up torem.

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Originally Posted by sofargone561

I have heard this before and thats one of the reasons i asked before i decided to use it. I have a buddy who also uses it but he always ran it on cycle. I know people who have ran torem before to they like it.
What would you recommend for a dosing protocol with clomid and torem? I already have clomid and aromasin so I dont mind picking up torem.

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this is what pantera suggested that works well. i have seen his approach and some other approaches a little higher with the doses as well as a little lower. you just have to find the happy middle ground that works best for you:

I would make sure all esters have cleared and pct with torem (if its citrate you will need to bump up the mgs a bit seeing its not as strong ) for 4 weeks @120mgs-ed/90mgs-ed/60mgs-ed/30mgs-ed, you could throw in clomid if ud like for 3 weeks or so id start with 200-250-ed/175-ed/100-ed dropping 75mgs a week.

you might also read up on hmg but like guns said hcg and hmg will suppress you more.. I have used the nolv and clomid pct and I was not a big fan of clomid. so I just stick with nolv. also from what I've read a-dex is a big no no when on pct bc your body needs some estrogen in it...

you might also look into some products from TGB that do not shut your system down.. maybe use that supplement while training if you can use AAS

for me colmid made me crazy like a women tried it several times and always felt the same so I stopped using it and stuck with nolv and the sides weren't near as bad..

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Originally Posted by guns01

this is what pantera suggested that works well. i have seen his approach and some other approaches a little higher with the doses as well as a little lower. you just have to find the happy middle ground that works best for you:

I would make sure all esters have cleared and pct with torem (if its citrate you will need to bump up the mgs a bit seeing its not as strong ) for 4 weeks @120mgs-ed/90mgs-ed/60mgs-ed/30mgs-ed, you could throw in clomid if ud like for 3 weeks or so id start with 200-250-ed/175-ed/100-ed dropping 75mgs a week.

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Thank you so much brother! How many mg should i up it. Where i get it from has citrate

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Originally Posted by apbt549

you might also read up on hmg but like guns said hcg and hmg will suppress you more.. I have used the nolv and clomid pct and I was not a big fan of clomid. so I just stick with nolv. also from what I've read a-dex is a big no no when on pct bc your body needs some estrogen in it...

you might also look into some products from TGB that do not shut your system down.. maybe use that supplement while training if you can use AAS

for me colmid made me crazy like a women tried it several times and always felt the same so I stopped using it and stuck with nolv and the sides weren't near as bad..

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I never used adex on PCT but I have used aromasin. Adex gives rebound so i try to use aromasin over adex for really anything.

I never used nolva and i usualy just stick to what i know.

Clomid makes me a fucking menstruating woman believe me lmao.

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Originally Posted by guns01

i say go with clomid and torem. if you use the hcg after you stop all your test it is going to further suppress you. you are far better off pct with those 2 and keep maybe the armosin in there to control estro rebound. read up on hcg man, yes it does suppress your natural test production and it should be used during a cycle to stimulate your boys bit in turn it will shut down the recovery process when no external test is present

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this is a very good statement take this advice

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Originally Posted by guns01

this is what pantera suggested that works well. i have seen his approach and some other approaches a little higher with the doses as well as a little lower. you just have to find the happy middle ground that works best for you:

I would make sure all esters have cleared and pct with torem (if its citrate you will need to bump up the mgs a bit seeing its not as strong ) for 4 weeks @120mgs-ed/90mgs-ed/60mgs-ed/30mgs-ed, you could throw in clomid if ud like for 3 weeks or so id start with 200-250-ed/175-ed/100-ed dropping 75mgs a week.

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Hey guns I have to cut this cycle short and start a PCT. How many mg's should I up my torem since its citrate, Would 40mg be to much? Should I add aromasin in with the clomid and torem? My last PCT was good but i got some gyno flare up like a week after and nips started getting really itchy. This PCT has to be a good one to get all my levels back to normal with no issues. I will have no access to PCT meds or gyno meds soon so if i fuck this one up it wont be good. ANy suggestions?

40 should be good and yes add in the aromasin for the gyno. i would taper it down as much as possible at the end of the pct to prevent a spike in estro also. that's probably what caused it to flare up the last time

Thanks guns and I think your right. Ill give this one a go now and see how it goes, should be better this go around I understand it better now. Thanks fellas.