i only done epo and aspirin and love the pumps, but what else would you guys like in peptides and why? do they work in your opinion? thnx
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i only done epo and aspirin and love the pumps, but what else would you guys like in peptides and why? do they work in your opinion? thnx
I have tried a lot of them and IGF DES is my favorite by far. It's an awesome compound. I can lift hard and heavy, sweat my ass off, get huge pumps, and lose fat while eating more cals. I do 200mcg pre wo. I also like ghrp2 and mod grf. These are my staples right now as they are the only ones i truly believe in.
ghrp 2 or 6...I like both
i like lr3 and des both for the pumps, water is knocked down a bit while on and fat loss
cjc without dac, keeps you lean, improves sleep, nice gh pulse to keep bf down and not to mention a double whammy if you are using gh as well
ipam/hex combo, keeps you lean and gives you a nice boost of energy.
mt2, brown white boy with a boner. dont need to say more than that lol
that's about all i can think of right now but i love them all for little tweaks here and there
Ghrp 6... My hunger always disappears mid cycle... Ghrp6 turns causes silly hunger for me.
i tried hgh but it dont work for me at all. it was humatrope, i tried hexarelin and mgf but is igf-1 good?
MGF was excellent for some nagging injuries. Pin directly in the spot for a week and I am good to go. I like G6 as a booster for HGH. I've got some DES but haven't tried it yet. I'll have to try it pre/wo and see how it works for me. Do you directly pin the muscle worked or sub-q?
Ipam and CJC(no dac) is working very well for my rats right now. Can also say mt2 is always fun..
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^Ipam rocks pre workout...maybe need to add that back in soon!
Tried PMA b4 and worked pretty well for leaning up. It was relatively cheap too.
Sorry, it was P-Gh Dont even know if its still out there.
HGH and TB-500
^mr peptide himself! Hey Vette how you doing!
Peptides are worthless...
IF someone says there not, SHOW ME results.
No need for that kind of attitude, having a discussion about what has worked for others. If you don't think peptides work, you're entitled to your opinion but try to voice it in a little nicer way. Thanks.
Aplologize, here is my honest take on them. I have only tried MGF, IGF LR3 and DES...It MAY keep you slightly leaner WHILE ON. MAYBE a bit more of a pump, but mostly placebo atleast thats how I feel.
I think alot of people think there going to get gains simliar to AAS, which is FAR from the truth.
I'm not sold on peptides either, my wife loves MT2 but to me the rest are not very effective. But my experience is very limited and will probably stay that way.
hey vette!!! nice to see you around bro!!...i know you have great info on peptides...your one of the few i trust on the subject!!
mt2 for the lady's? whats that about?
i have only tried igfr3 and did it completely wrong!! well....done gh and that works awesome. i'd like to put a peptide cyc together, that wont kill the funds, and see how it goes!!!
You can only voice this opinion if you believe that science isn't real. Their are gh serum results showing that peptides create a gh pulse and pretty damn big one at that. Some of the others one i do believe aren't worth the money but to lump them all in one category si simple minded and very uneducated.
There is no reason to wait to eat after you take gh. That theory came from the fact that people use to think that carbs and fat would blunt a gh release. It has since been proven that it does not and not only that you are not pulsing you are injecting synthetic gh, it will run it's course no matter what. Just some food for thought.
I physician has done testing on this and his pulse was the same fasted or not fasted. The only reason to take gh in a fasted state is to help accelerate FFA release and to help aid in fat burning. Before bed would not be the proper time to worry about his as you are about to go to bed and not go do cardio. Also put some logic behind it. It takes 1-2 hour until your normal food is truly being digested and 4-5 hours for it to clear your intestines. This is why you need to fast for 8 hours prior to blood work and the such. With knowing this unless you haven't eaten in the last 4-5 hours does waiting 20 min really effect the gh. NO. Besides that like i said earlier if you inject synthetic gh it is going to run it's course and do what it does. I have done gh serum tests fasted and non fasted and the result is the same. People thought you needed to wait because it says fasted on the gh serum test when you order it. The reason for this is you are trying to get a natural pulse which they say would be blunted by food(natural pulse might be but ghrp's and ghrh;s are not blunted by food). People just bro scienced this into you need to not eat for x time until your gh. Once again what is 20 min actually doing for you lol. Im sorry i don't have the pubmed article to link to this, but i have done lots of reading and their is a doc that has a his own private practice that has done many tests on another forum that i have talked to and read all of his results.
Love this topic, been fascinated with peptides ever since my early webmaster/forum days.
Current perspective/balance sheet on peptides trending :thumb:
Assets
HGH: Best user-friendly polypeptide hormone for anti-aging/body re-composition (generally best suited for males with lean mass also on or familiar with AAS). Downside is the risky nature of sales/acquisition/sustainability....
IGF-1 (analogs LR3 & DES): Interesting research peptide with varying quality control/reliability - a product I understand to deliver value to a specific niche (to loved ones I generally do not advocate experimentation)
Melanotan: Amazing product particularly for those with lacking ability to tan/pigment in nature - unfortunately the mainstream utilizes Melanotan 2 as it's cheap/effective (hanging onto hopes that a more potent analog similar to MT-1 sequence will make it to market one day)
Ipamorelin: Subtle GHRP which offers results with less sides (out of control appetite/lifestyle interference...for those not training/eating full-time) as compared to GHRP-6/GHRP-2
TB-500: Very interesting healing peptide being used for those recovery from muscle tears, surgery, inflammation, etc - something to keep a lookout for results, between the marketing there are rave reviews seemingly offering life-changing experiences
AICAR/GW-501516: Trainers I trust continue to slowly filter positive tid-bits on these premiums
Liabilities
HGH Fragments: Snake oil to avoid, however relatively harmless
Follistatin/Myostatin: Guinea pigs looking to get Phil'd need only to apply
CJC-1295 (DAC): Use enough of it weekly and feel bloated, lethargic, pain in joints/etc
Sermorelin: Typically over-priced briefly efficacious GHRH product barely worth its salt
Hexarelin: Purchase alternative GHRP-2, hex hasn't delivered value from my vantage point
Vette I always knew you were a smart cookie. I agree with everything you said right there. I stick to ghrp2 and mod grf. And I throw some igf 1 des in the mix for a few weeks every couple of months. Hgh is also amazing assuming you get good stuff.
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learned alot from all the guys. i know some of the top pros gear that they use and theres not alot of peptides on there lists. mostly just insulin, hgh, parabolan and other steroids only no peptides. i think ill listen to anabolic and stay with just steroids, slin, metformin. dexter jackson dont use no peptides or slin just alot, alot of steroids at high dosages.
I know ~dozen pros entering/entered the peptides business...the efficacy has been improved the past 5 years (out-dating this perspective imho) - however you're right not to get set up to get phil'd anyhowQuote:
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