Anyone think t-bol and var should be run together. I need some feed back on this
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Anyone think t-bol and var should be run together. I need some feed back on this
huh...never thaught of that and certainly never did it....i dont know that it'd be bennificial or not! seems that it'd be added stress on the liver for very small, if any, bennifit. i'd run one or the other
Here's a clip about it. Must be an old clip as it references BD and we know thay are gone.
They mention its similarity to D-bol however without the water/weight gain. Also mention that this appears to be a mix between Var and D-bol. Since it is similar to Var, you may be overdoing it by taking Var and T-bol at the same time.
As such, ditto to Dave150, i would run one or the other.
Just my 2 cents
Oral-Turinabol
Chemical Name: 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone
Drug Class: Oral Anabolic Steroid
Oral Turinabol (4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone, commonly called “OT” or “T-bol”) has recently experienced an explosion of popularity due to its recent (re)release by British Dragon, and the subsequent game of follow-the-leader played by most underground labs. It was developed by scientists in East Germany, and is actually Dianabol (a dehydro version of testosterone) with a 4-chloro modification. The 4-chloro modification is also seen on “Clostebol” although that particular drug lacks the 1-2 double carbon bond that Dianabol and Turinabol both have. The 4-chloro modification actually makes the compound totally resistant to the aromatase enzyme (1), so users typically equate T-bol to Dianabol, but without the water retention. This is a very good comparison, actually, although it needs to be stated that weight gained with this drug will be significantly less than what is gained with D-bol.
The similarities are actually quite numerous, as they have also both been 17-alpha-alkylated (a carbon atom was added at the 17th position) to survive the first pass through the liver, and therefore be orally active. This, of course elevates liver enzyme activity. If I were to quantify the gains one experiences from this compound, I would say that it’s half way between Anavar and Dianabol, and therefore a perfect addition to either bulking or cutting cycles.
Another interesting effect of OT is that it would appear to have the ability to reduce Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (2)(3)to other steroids. This is important because that enzyme, when bound to testosterone, makes the latter un-bioavailable. This may also seem to indicate that OT may have synergy with other steroids, since it has this ability to reduce SHBG and thus free up more testosterone for use in your body, and prevent other steroids from becoming bound also.
The only negative thing I have read concerning OT is that in high doses (10+mg) have caused virilization in women.(4) However, the women I know who have actually used this drug haven’t reported anything like that. In fact, most women I know who have used it experienced much more positive effects from than men, as very little of this compound is actually needed to produce results in women.
The popularity of this drug in the East German’s gold medal winning cycles probably contributes quite a bit to it’s popularity, and unfortunately to its price also. Typically, although this drug is easily found on the black market, it’s also in relatively high demand, and that keeps the price stable- and high. My current feeling on this product is that if I were to try it, I’d limit my choices to either the paper anabolic or British Dragon version.
i agree with the above... too much stress on the liver. var has to be taking in high doses and t-bol didnt do much for me even when i ran it at 50-60mg a day.
I think T-bol is awesome and can never figure out why more don't use it.Running with Var i think is not a good option and i think var is not very good to begin with,especially for someone at your bodyweight.var imo is a good compound for girls.
I think T-bol is a good ladies option as well. I'm not a real huge fan of var.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doink the clown
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I had also read somewhere that Var is used to bridge between cycles.
Heard the same?
Bridge being like as coming off before PCT? or?
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i think it would be fine, even in regards to liver if proper liver protectants are taken. also, that would be dose related as well. if one wants to take 80mg/day of each, then i think thats a tad overkill. however, if someone wanted to do 40mg/day of tbol and 40-50mg/day of var, i think they'd have a good synergistic effect and work together well. i also don't take liver care flipantly, i just think a lot of times its exhaggerated. with two drugs like this, i don't think it'd be a crisis. keep dose and duration down, i really don't think would cause any problems. then again, i'm no doctor, i just play one on tv.
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Originally Posted by IronpumpedLady
Bridging - taking smaller quantities of a steroid between cycles in an attempt to maintain some of the size and strength benefits from when the person was in cycle.
This is dangerous and often a misconseption in that you are really never "off" steroids. This will prevent androgen receptors from ever returning to normal levels. So, when a person decides to go back "on-cycle", they get few benefits from the higher dose steroids because their receptors are still down-graded. At this point the person begins to question if the steroids are real because they aren't seeing an effect.
I see just a vise to keep receptors from down grading, I wasn't sure if thats what you meant.
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Ive used var for very long priod of times and made sure I took care of my liver with liv52 and plenty of water and I had great results with var
if im taxing my liver, i would rather just do something like d-bol, anavar, halo, or something alot stronger..just my oppinion