When not running anything other then igf and gh its not necessary to ever run PCT correct if staying on year round? Of course the igf will be 4 on/4 off but there is no need for PCT right? Thanks, Im having trouble thinking this morning
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When not running anything other then igf and gh its not necessary to ever run PCT correct if staying on year round? Of course the igf will be 4 on/4 off but there is no need for PCT right? Thanks, Im having trouble thinking this morning
Do not run growth and IGF together. One or the other is fine. I personally have tried IGF alone for pct and saw great results with it. The only downside that I had with it was being tired all day but I got over that.
i want to try igf with pct next time
DUDE DONT RUN BOTH AND IGF IS GREAT FOR PCT.
just curious? Why do you guys say not to run them together? Im not sure I understand your question Yamaha, you mean a PCT for AAS or a PCT for GH/IGF?
I'll second those questions...I thought you were refering to PCT of AAS while on GH etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolsroyce
and why not guys? my thought would be to much opportunity for things you dont want to grow (ie organs?)
I run them both together. I stay on the GH year round and do 4 weeks on/4 weeks off of the IGF. My question was is there ever a need to run PCT for these 2 compounds? Not AAS. I already know the answer to that one..
yes of coarse I feel there is a need to run PCT for them..My brother was using LR3 and then about 3 weeks post use he had blood work done and his GH levels were almost non existant, the Dr. wrote him a script for HGH, Nutropin. I will try to get his blood work results and post them. The Dr. freaked when he saw how low it was and told him he was surprised he wasnt crazy. I am sure it has to do with the negative feedback loop causing the body to shut off GH production so that IGF levels will fall. He hasnt started the GH yet and its been a week or two, waiting on insurance stuff to go through I think. He said a rep from the company was coming out to show him how to take the GH. He said all he knew was he would be on ED shots. I hope I can get his blood report, if I do I will scan it in and post it..
there is a product out called ghrp-6 that is supposed to be a PCT agent for these compounds. I have not researched it yet but I have a buddy that lives in germany that uses it and swears by it... I would use the HGH and IGF together as well now that i know how bad IGFLR3 shuts down your natty GH production.. Also I feel that the 5 and 2 protocol has no benefit over ED protocol because the 2 day break will do nothing to help your natty GH come back up..It takes months for this to happen..
well i dont plan on coming off the GH. I want to continue to run it year round...so i guess i dont need PCT until i decide to stop
I was wondering the same thing, I had great results last cycle running both igf and gh and I'm about to finish my second kit of gh and start my igf next week. Just curious for the reasons why you wouldn't run both.
I THOUGHT I READ SOMEWHERE NOT TO I HAVE TO FIND IT IF THATS WHAT I READ RIGHT