I got a problem....

I prolly did three cycles of M1T @10mg ed with three to four squirts 4-AD 15mg/Finaplix 20g transderm,..twice for thirtydays. So I decieded to drop it to 5mg M1T and the transderm @ two squirts ed,.. I got gyno.. So I dumped the cycle and hit the Tamox @ 60,40,30,20.. It got it down quite a bit cept a bit of residual,..not bad. As of today I'm on day thirty of the same cycle,..the lumps came back and were hurtin' Sunday, so I hit the Tamox again. Lastnight they really hurt. Whats the deal..? This sucks bigtime cause I actually am having better results now doing the longer cycles. I never been in shape like this before y'all !!! I feel like the real Mike like never before !! I max out all my sets, and heavy. All I been wanting to eat is lots of protein, I eat like three chicken breasts at a time, half a salmon,.. no problem. Big ol' bowl of brocc and cheese, yams... I also noticed my mood is different after thirtydays. My fuse is a lil longer and im really happy now, not as edgy and pissy like at the first threeweeks. I dont want to stop just yet,..I feel like im in the zone now,..like how y'all say you dont start to really feel it till week four..?
If this bit of gyno progresses,.. I will just dump it. I think nextime I will start the Tamox on week two and run throughout the cycle. Or maby I just got a shit load of natural test in me now that im gettin' older ? :D

You should stop the gear now and take nolv at 80mg ed for a few days but no longer than a week. Then, take 40mg for another week and 20mg another week. I have never had it but that is about standard I believe.

Interesting.

I agree, stop the cycle now and stop using prohormones. It seems something in your cycle keeps giving you gyno.

I've never had gyno using a prohormone. Are you sure your 4-AD is good? You may want to switch from 4-ad to some type of test. With 4-AD being a scheduled III drug now, you might as well use the real stuff.

I dont have a source bro so this is all I got. And yes the 4-AD is from PN,..im sure they wouldn't screw me. Maby they sent me something else by mistake,..? something better perhaps.... :thumbsup:
The lil knot is getting smaller with Tamox @ 60mg, so im gonna keep going for awhile. Im really feeling the best part of this for the first time,..the only thing that sucks is im horny 24/7....x 1000 !!!! now. Yes I know, dont touch it and it'll pass..LMAO!

sorry bro, no gyno from pro-hormones, and i do 4ad 8 squirts aday (last time got me a nasty rash though)...but, i would have to agree if it was me, i would stop now. follow js24. good luck.

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Originally Posted by mtnmedic

I dont have a source bro so this is all I got.

The lil knot is getting smaller with Tamox

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Thats good to hear bro.


You don't need a source. Do a little research on Finaplix-h (tren) and Synovex-h (test prop)

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well, done lot's a test, cyp & prop, as high as 600 mg per week and no gyno problems, not even a hint

a week into 8-12 squirts a day of 4-ad, tender sore nips, and took the nolva

overall gyno ain't worth it, stop the cycle, heal and then try again

cycle's you gain do-over, gyno well, it's good you headed off at the pass, yet you don't want it to progress where it get's the upper hand

better safe than sorry on this one, is best bet

congrats on workouts

This is really strange,.. I've done plenty of these cycles. This is the second time now for some strange reason. At week four is when the gyno hits, which is the time the cycle really kicks in. I even cut the dose in half for cryin out loud !!
So what do y'all suggest for Clomid doseage for this one ?
Wheelbarrel, I got a big ol' box of Finaplix. and I hear Syno is gyno in a bottle...
ed injects would be a bit too much for a first timer compared to say Enanthate.

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So what do y'all suggest for Clomid doseage for this one ?

Wheelbarrel, I got a big ol' box of Finaplix. and I hear Syno is gyno in a bottle...

ed injects would be a bit too much for a first timer compared to say Enanthate.

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You would do the standard Clomid PCT (300 mg day 1 / 100 mg days 2-11 / 50 mg days 12-21) with this cycle along with 20mgs Nolva days 1-28.

It would be better if you had access to Test Prop or Test E, but without a source, you can buy Syno legally the same place you get your fina. Syno does have estrogen in it, but you can get a kit that will remove most if not all of the estrogen.

There is no need for ED injections, EOD injections would work just fine. For your first cycle tren isn't the best choice, its harsh on your system and one never knows how the drug will affect them, but you've been using it as a transdermal. If you are going to use tren, you will need to use some type of test, injectable is so much better than oral, there's no way to compair oral 4-ad to injectable test.

Hmm,.. how shall I explain ? Fina brought out the real me, I dont give in to bulls#it anymore. I know how to use it to my advantage and well being.. I can only imagine what will happen when I actually start running it this summer. And yes the Synovex is pretty cheap. Thanks for the input bro.