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Hey guys,
I'm just curious if anyone has any experience with this. Does it seem to clog the needle, and what type of pain is associated? I am assumine the half life to be similar to water based test suspension and thus should be shot 2 X per day for optimal blood levels. Anyone?
Thanks in advance.
are you runnin this by itself or with test?
I will be running it with test prop and tren acetate. But I will be shooting it alone since I dont want to mix oil and water based injections (increased chance of abscess).
This sounds cool... Keep us updated... -J
increased chance of abcess, Has anyone else heard that, sounds like a load of crap. If you dont inject dirty gear, and get it deep in the muscle, what difference would it make.
I have mixed them plenty and never had an abcess or any other problems.
you wont be able to brew it yourself and make it sterile in Bact water... there will be no way to filter it. just do it in oil.
I wont be making it myself. I have heard from quite a few people that by mixing water and oil based injections you have the chance of having the water based gear in the muscle for a longer time, which negates the posative effects of it being suspension, and can increase the chance of bacteria growing.
Here is a good explenation by Snarf at EF.
"The problem with mixing the oil and water based AAS is that it forms an oil/water emulsion, like Fonz stated. This is where basically tiny droplet of oil encapsulate water droplets. Normally, if you injected the water based gear alone it is absorbed and dissipates from the injection site very quickly. Therefore, no infection. When it is encapsulated by oil, the water stays at the injection site for a much longer period of time, which can result in an infection. The oil based gear will hold the BA so that it can't start growing anything, the water based gear will not, the alcohol leaves the water and makes for nice place to bacteria to grow."
Anymore input anyone?
im with u on bumping for more input. i still dont believe it. where does the bacteria come from if the shit is sterile. something doesnt come from nothing.
and why do they say the alcohol leaves the water, where does it go, into the blood?? and where does the juice go, into the blood?
muscle fibers are dense they dont just open up a big pocket to accomodate what u squirt in there, it just spreads thru the fibers, i really personally doubt that what they are talking about could happen i think the only encapsulation is while its in the syringe
just my opinion lets hear others i will start a new thread for this
i also dont understand why they say it would hold the water based for a longer time because of oil. the only time factor is controlled by the ester not the oil. this is why suspension hits fast there is no ester.
I have a feeling that bolderone base in water will clog everything but a very large guage needle. I don't think that the bolderone bases that chem suppliers sell is micronized like the vet and underground lab stuff is. Alot of people have this problem, Univet test suspention for example. If you get it to work let us know, a fast acting EQ would be awsome.
Good luck,
sweet
Looks like my guy discontinued this product due to the high pain. someone needs to attach this drug to a short ester. Sorry I wont be able to get back with results on this one.