Winnie vs Var Real World ???

Can someone explain the different actions of Var as opposed to winnie. I`m interested in real world experiance. From reading different profiles they seem similar.

I know var is a bit spendy but is it worth it

In otherwords what is each best suited for?

Example: Strength and lean muscle growth of each. Is one more toxic to the liver than the other? Sides of each?
What are they best suited for.

I found Var at a "reasonable" price and would like to know the pro`s and cons of each? I`m older than most and the joint pain I hear about Winnie is kind of a turn-off.

Both seem similar in profiles I`ve read except Var seems to have an edge in muscle developement.

Someone please in laymans term indicate the differences for me.

Are they run similar lenghts? what about comparable doses?
I see many run Winnie at 50ED what about Var at optimum(sp) dosage?

Help me out Bro`s. Skoooool me. Thanks DOUBLE J

FINISHED 5 WEEKS OF VAR AND LOVED IT. WINNY IS HARDER ON YOUR LIVER THEN VAR. I DID 30MGS A DAY AND HAD GREAT RESULTS. LOST LOTS OF HAIR ON WINNY/ AND NONE ON VAR

Is Var alittle more about quality mass?(As in builds a bit more mass) Whats peoples dosage range?
The joint and hair situation of winnie is making me think twice. I`ve just never had any exp with Var.

Good question double J, I've wondered the same thing. I'm researching it and really considering Var instead of winny this time. Fuzo, you say 30mg per day worked...how come I always hear you should go with 40 or 50?

u get more bang for ur buck with winn,but i would choose var as i muse others would to ,no hair and joint problems,30 mg wont do shit for most peaople ,40-50 is what they normaly use along with 10gr of cratine as oxandrolone stimulates directly the phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle it self so they compliment each other.

For someone so smart, you sure do type like a chimp with no hands.

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Originally posted by big N
u get more bang for ur buck with winn,but i would choose var as i muse others would to ,no hair and joint problems,30 mg wont do shit for most peaople ,40-50 is what they normaly use along with 10gr of cratine as oxandrolone stimulates directly the phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle it self so they compliment each other.

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lmao , i would choose whinny but i dont lose my hair

WELL BIG N YOU COULD BE RIGHT BUT I WILL TELL EVERY BODY HERE I WIEGH 200 POUNDS TOOK 30MGS A DAY AND MY STRENGTH WENT THROUGH THE ROOF. TO EACH IS OWN I GUESS. MY JOINTS ARE FINE AND NO HAIR LOSS SOME TIMES MORE ISNT BETTER.

i posted this same response at SM

These are my thoughts.

I love winny. I do not really have a big problem with the joint pain but i make sure and have 2500-3000 mgs of glucosamine+chrondoitn ed while on winny.

i have better pumps on winny than var.
i gain more lean mass on winny than i did var.
i have more endurance on winny than var.
Var seems to cut me up a bit more than winny.
var is more gentile on my hairline than winny.
winny affects my peepee more than var (in negative way)
i seem to have better strength on var than winny

an 8 week cycle of winny (50mgs zambons EOD) costs me about $250
an 8 week cycle of var (30mgs ED) costs me close to $400

those are my experiences. others may have different results.