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I was thinking this morning that I dont see many of you guys talk about or use winny in your cycles. Since I have issues with DHT drugs, although ill use masteron again, I wanted to know yall's first hand experience with winstrol.
I know it causes joint pain and it can leave the injection site painful as hell, from what ive heard. Are the benefits worth the sides and would oral winny be better for that reason?
Back in the day everyone used Winnie injection
Water base. Site pain for sure and closing in the pin
I never did it for that reason .
tabs are the way to go. 50mg ed is a good starting dose and the half life is not super long. You would have to pin daily to keep levels stable and get the dose you need. Winny can be a fantastic cutter. I will be using it in my upcoming cycle. In the past I think I was carrying to much water and fat to reap the benefits of it.
IF YOU ARE USING IT TO CUT FAT AND BODY WATER...I FIND THAT ANAVAR DOES THAT FOR ME WAY FASTER. IT MELTS IT OFF QUICK!
O2
Yea good info guys, You know i ran anavar two cycles ago(seems like yesterday) and i got some good strength from it but not much else. I only did a month though..
I love whinny myself ESP the brand im using now orals
Var all the way. Joint pain from winny was too much the last few times I used it that I switched to var and never looked back. I could use var alone and be happy, and I've actually done that a couple times for 4 to 5 week runs with good results. I know most say its a waste to do a oral only cycle but I had good results. Obviously it is better stacked though.Quote:
Originally Posted by O2BESOHUGE
Var to me doesn't lose any fat, that's just my opinion I never saw it, and unless your taking it at a 100mg then yeah you will see strength results probably at 5-6 weeks but for me and Im a var nut it is a slow and steady strength gains over 6+ months.I don't expect any of you to go on that long if your new to it.But for me. Var is widely faked by winny so if anyone is using var and gets sore joints well there ya go. But when I switched to tbol I got way better results from tbol then var for strength
I had best cycles for cutting last few years using var instead of winnyQuote:
Originally Posted by O2BESOHUGE
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i never had a problem with it. lean gains and winny only worked real well for me
in my years, injectable regardless of where it came from was crippling. that is from zambons to oil based suspensions. i do not tolerate oil or water period. as for the orals it is a great compound to allow you to maintain lean tissue and strength while in a calorie def. it is a very mild and not estrogenic at all so no water retention or big jumps in weight gain from this bad boy. some of the down sides of it as already pointed out is of course joint pain from drying out but what some people miss is it has a tendency to make the muscle tighten up quite a bit setting you up for tears. lots of big time track and field sprinters have torn muscles using good old winny prepping for meets. lots of big name track athletes have also tested positive for it as well. it is a pretty good compound for those that are already pretty lean and looking to harden up a bit more and hold onto some muscle while dieting down even further
Yea that would probably explain the two calf tears I got fighting in nationals as I was running tren and winny cycles thenQuote:
Originally Posted by guns01
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I used to run winny, but not so much any more. Seems like the older I get, the more it affect my joints. Like several already mentioned, I moved over to using var in it's place. I liked it back in the day, but I feel like it's more of a compound for someone that is already fairly lean.