Tweetread this yesterday and it is very eye opening for the future

TweetThat was a good read. I've had to start going lighter on squats bc my knees. It isnt worth being stuck on pain meds forever.

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Originally Posted by animal87

That was a good read. I've had to start going lighter on squats bc my knees. It isnt worth being stuck on pain meds forever.

i was thinking the same thing last night when i was laying in bed with my shoulder just absolutely screaming in pain. so bad that the wife had to get up to get a pillow to prop it up on. i am screwed though because i am destined to be in that zone in the future even without lifting weights ever again so hopefully they can come up with something better in the future

TweetPretty awesome article. I went through eight years of oxycodone hell and its no freakin joke. As far as the abuse on the body from weightlifting, i think its the cost of doing business the only thing i dont understand are the rediculous amounts of gear guys run. i swear ive never heard of 5000mg a week of test, are you kidding me?? I will never judge anyone on stuff like that but more is not always better.

TweetJust skimmed it but very interesting. Will real the whole thing later thanks for the post.

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Originally Posted by hicktown

Pretty awesome article. I went through eight years of oxycodone hell and its no freakin joke. As far as the abuse on the body from weightlifting, i think its the cost of doing business the only thing i dont understand are the rediculous amounts of gear guys run. i swear ive never heard of 5000mg a week of test, are you kidding me?? I will never judge anyone on stuff like that but more is not always better.

5g is def not unheard of or that uncommon. that's why you see rising stars peak and then disappear just as fast.

TweetI know guys who run 2 or even 3 but I've never met anyone who at least admitted to running 5+

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Originally Posted by sofargone561

I know guys who run 2 or even 3 but I've never met anyone who at least admitted to running 5+

if you do the math most people just factor in say test at 2g or whatever. now say you are at 2g of test 1g tren 1g mast and 5-700 winny. that right there puts you at right around 5g of total hormones and that's a mild stack for some competitors. you would be blown away by some of the stuff that national level guys and pros do or have done. not saying all but there are a lot of them running around doing it. not saying it is good wrong or right but it is more common than we dare to think

Tweet[QUOTE=hicktown;1194383]Pretty awesome article. I went through eight years of oxycodone hell and its no freakin joke. As far as the abuse on the body from weightlifting, i think its the cost of doing business the only thing i dont understand are the rediculous amounts of gear guys run. i swear ive never heard of 5000mg a week of test, are you kidding me?? I will never judge anyone on stuff like that but more is not always better.[/QU


Hicktown I was on Norco along with 4 other scripts for pain almost 9 years was not hooked but scared to stop. I start TRT almost 5 years ago and came off all those piece of shit drugs. I hate the way pain meds screw with my body.

Tweetthat and rake is an older than me guy that runs trt and is still jacked and lean. not to mention towering over me by more than a couple of inches. he is also another person like myself that figured out that if you get in there and get the blood and everything moving around it doesnt hurt quite as bad. yes it does hurt but it isnt crippling as it would be if you took that doc's advice and ate that crap day in and day out while sitting on you butt.

TweetVery right guns. I was speaking just on the test. I have a buddy who was competing and showed me his cycle. it was easily 5g per week total plus orals

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Originally Posted by sofargone561

Very right guns. I was speaking just on the test. I have a buddy who was competing and showed me his cycle. it was easily 5g per week total plus orals

speaking from personal experience years and years back, i tried the waters of 3g per week and it lasted 5wks and i dropped off. way to much for me or my body to handle and that was the base so i was way higher with everything else but man the sides were horrible.

TweetI to feel that it is part of the game. For the most part most of my injuries resulted from ego being the driving factor. Controlled heavy maxes have never resulted in injury for me. Sure I have aches and pains but trying to be monster and pushing my limits each week is my driving force. I dont want to be average.