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Originally Posted by bowbow

Everything I've ever read has always said not to take hcg with clomid during your pct. You want to be finished with the hcg before you start your pct.

never mind, i meant take clomid after ur last shot of hcg....

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Originally Posted by BIG_MIKE1979

Eddie, eddie, eddie, u still determined that HCG hurts ur recovery....if u don't take a lot of it, it wont....i'am saying a like 1000ius a week is plenty along wt clomid and slin..... best pct out there to keep ur gain...but i'am guessing sullen is not ready for inslin so that is why i didn't mention slin

sorry mikey, but i'm not flyin solo with my opinion. and there is research to back it up. do a search here or Cf

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Originally Posted by edvedr

sorry mikey, but i'm not flyin solo with my opinion. and there is research to back it up. do a search here or Cf

i was waiting for u 2 tell me this eddie :p :p :p :p
but bro if all teh pro takes hcg for 3 weeks or 4 max it ain't gonna hurt u...i told u before i know 2 pro bodybuilders personally and i have their cellys numbers and both of them adviced me to take hcg and clomid after my last shot of hcg..pm me if u can

Tweetwell i think we are kind of argueing the same points. i'm not bein specific enough. i will run hcg during the cycle and thats it. some right after cycle BEFORE clomid starts. i was considering pct is when clomid starts. as long as there not bein run at the same time i think everything will be fine. but when runnin hcg the way you like it seems to be (even in ur study) that timing and doseage is just to crucial to be worth it. if there is a chance of reversing its effects by not doin it correctly then its not worth it to me. if it only made the hcg useless that woould be one thing, but reversing and hurtin recovery is another

Tweetlol and by the way advise on pct from pros means nothin to me. they might know alot but as far as recovery....well i think u need to come off and recover fully before you can give out advice on it, don't you?

Tweetso run the hcg and nolva then do the clomid??

Tweethttps://fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44396

read all these studies bro.....especially the ones i posted

TweetI would reference this when dosaging HCG.

TweetPersonally if i were on a deca, tren cycle or using an oral like drol, i don't see any prob in taking 500-1000IU of HCG three times a wk just before pct to help bring back normal testicular function. Clinical Pharmacology Indications: The action of HCG is virtually identical to that of pituitary LH, although HCG appears to have a small degree of FSH activity as well. It stimulates production of gonadal steroid hormones by stimulating the interstital cells (Leydig cells) of the testis to produce androgens. Androgen sitmulation in the male leads to the development of secondary sex characteristics and may stimulate testicular descent when no anatomical impediment to descent is present. This decent is usually reversible when HCG is discontinued. I have talked to two endrocronologist on this issue, with them in agreement that there is no impediment in regaining normal Leydig cell function after treatment in dosages mentioned on package insert and in above dosaging.

Tweetgood post mick. this is one of those areas where it can be preference. I would prefer to run hcg during the cycle...stop with cyce and then run pct. but as long as hcg is stopped before pct starts then there shouldn't be a problem. and it seems we all agree on that. good thread

TweetFrankly the last few cycles ive been doing are very low andro cycles, so hcg i don't think was necessary. Everyone has different ideas, but since your body is clearing itself of the aas after you stop cycle, i would think it may be a good idea to use some right after the cycle. All i have to say is try it and see if you don't notice a difference. (500-1000IU three times a wk) right after last inject. It will give your balls the boost they need to start pct recovery.

Tweetcorrect, but if i'm runnin hcg every weekend thru my entire cycle then i won't need to do that. don't you agree?

TweetI don't know, what are you taking? and how much hcg and what dosage?