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Originally Posted by DethKlok

Caber, Asin, etc. fight side effects but do they help or hurt gains?

I have no scientific proof for this except using myself and talking to others. I am pretty convinced that you will always gain more muscle when both your testosterone and estrogen is elevated. That is why I use noveldex and not an ai. Noveldex does nothing to affect estro levels. It stops gyno by, pretty much, sticking itself in the same receptors estro would to cause gyno. So, if estro is raised these receptors are occupied and you do not get gyno. Your estro level, however, is still raised higher than normal.
An AI works by just killing off estrogen, usually too much, they are very, very strong. Using an AI your estro levels could drop lower than normal.
Only time this would be a very good thing is for a contest. Such low estrogen will make you hold less water and look harder in general.


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