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Originally Posted by FUZO

Cycle Talk - First Cycle got this from Pushtoday Great Article

Disclaimer: I do not claim to be an expert. I am not a chemist. Nor am I a doctor. These are my opinions and are not intended to offend anyone. I'm just writing from my experience.

First Cycle

So you have decided to run an AAS cycle.
You have done all your research and homework and are ready to begin your first cycle.
You know what your going to run and for how long.
Hopefully you also have planned to do a Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)

Many will recommend a test only cycle for your first run but obviously that is your call.

First things first you need to get EVERYTHING together.
Do NOT start your cycle until you have EVERYTHING on hand.

You will need:

Oils: Testosterone preferably a longer ester test (eg, cypionate or enanthate.)
Tip: Get more than you think you will need, If you plan on running a 10 week cycle (pinning twice a week) and you only get two 10ml vials of test e, then you have no room for error. Get an extra vial!

Orals: If your going to jumpstart your cycle with an oral (eg, dbol,tbol,winstrol,anavar) you will need to have them on hand.

Needles: Get extra! You do not want to stall your cycle because you didn't get enough pins for the entire run.

Aromatase Inhibitor (A.I.): Have some on hand BEFORE you begin! IF an issue pops up on cycle you will be soooo thankful that you already have an A.I. ready to go.
Tip: At a Minimum have Arimidex or Aromasin on hand. It would better if you had one of those and Novadex or Letrozole on hand also. Just in case!

PCT: Have PCT products (novadex and clomid) on hand BEFORE you start. If you have to cut your cycle short for some reason (sh*t happens) you will be thankful that you planned ahead.

Diet: Have a good diet planned while on cycle, whether you are going to bulk, recomp, cut or lean bulk you will need a diet plan. AAS will not work effectively without proper nutrition! Dont expect to eat all shit food and then wonder why your not getting quality gains!

Training Plan: Make sure you train to compliment your cycle. AAS will not work effectively without proper training. Don't train once a week and then complain about not getting gains.


Few other little tips to make your cycle easier.
Get alcohol wipes, cheap and easier to use than alcohol and cotton balls.
Get on a pinning schedule. If you plan on pinning twice a week then set a schedule like every Monday then Thursday, or Sunday and Wednesday. If you work late every monday night then maybe mondays aren't the best choice. You get the point. Have a schedule and stick to it as much as possible.
Have a plan to responsibly dispose of your needles and syringes.

REMEMBER DO NOT START UNTIL YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ON HAND!

Hopefully this little write up can help some newer users understand the terms and process somewhat better. I know that I had and still do have questions regarding AAS use all the time. I am one to ask too many questions and you should too. After all this is your body were talking about.

Yeah I hate the logs that start off gyno mid cycle,lmao
Or the guy who buys two bottles of test e orders the third week 4 with his pct international and hopes it makes it.just don't get it.and when they find out pct and cycle support cost more than the cycle.lmao
Great write up

TweetOh yeah
I always tell newbs if they insist to run a oral first cycle better off throwing it in mid cycle after they get a feel for the test.

TweetI remember being a noob. Just wanted to do dbol...nothing else. The good old days...lol

TweetGreat thread my freind

Tweeti am going to do a huge spin off on this bad boy.

first and foremost have all your products on hand before starting. this includes but is not limited to: anti e, pct, support supplements and enough of the compound chosen to run for the duration of the cycle.

second: pre cycle blood work. again this includes but is not limited to, liver values(all of them), kidney function, estogen panels, prolactin, hemocrit rbc and all other health markers

third: if it is your first or second run then i would suggest only using one or two compounds at the minimum dose. for starters you want to get as much bang for your buck and not be at the top end of dosing right out of the gate. if you have no where to progress you are already screwing the pooch. now when multiple compounds come into play it is hard to figure out what is or isnt causing issues when you rare new to the game. so the best suggestion would to be only run one the first cycle and see how and what it does to your body. the next run go ahead and put another compound in there and see what happens and how you respond. the cool thing about doing it this way is every run you can change up your test type(yes it does matter) and add in a new secondary compound. as you get further down the road then you can play with multiple compounds.

fourth: dont take anti e and other added compounds when not needed. this is why i said knock out that first initial blood work. if you start having issues then you can get some additional bloods for 30 or 40 bucks and add in whats needed from there. what some people fail to realize is that a lot of these anti e that are added in are just as harsh and sometime harsher than the actual aas. so just tossing in some dex to control water etc.... without knowing whats going on is a big mistake

TweetAbsolutely great write up.

TweetShould be mandatory for all new members to read and reply!!!!

TweetThis brings up a recent adverse reaction i had only a week or two weeks ago dealing with an OTC all in one support product i started taking..
1st id like to state ive taken this particular product at least a dozen times for weeks on end. Never had an issue.
A few weeks ago one day ,i had gotten the chills real bad. Followed by perfuse sweating, shaking, and my eyes turned blood red. A short time later i would be sick to my stomach and throw up. I first thought i probable had the flu.
2nd day i was feeling better, so midway through the day. My symptoms started all over again. I felt down right dreadful.
I remembered taking my support supplement and a stim product. I thought it could be the stim product. I wasnt real certain.
Day 3, i feel great . That evening was going to dinner with the wife and kids. About an hour prior i took my all in one support product (damage control) . The only thing i took that day. I was fine until about 1 hr passed. We had just sat down at the restaurant ,i had the chills all over my body, sweating like i was on tren, shaking worse then clen. I was so sick, my turned to me
With this horrid look on her face. Then turned away.. i asked her whats wrong? She replied: she. Couldnt look at me , my eyes were blood red, i looked as if i was dead. So i asked to be excused and waited in the car. That evening i explained to her , what i thought has now been causing my symptoms.
I still was not 100% sold on this. So the nextt day while at work. I conducted a little test. With myself as the guinea pig.
I took 2 caps of damage control, marked the time. And waited. Not an hour had gone by and i was freezing, shaking like i was on clen, sweating profusely, within an hour my eyes ,started changing. By an hour and a half. My eyes were totally blood red.
My head was feeling groggy, funny, off balance. Another hour or so and i was sick throwing up. I hated life .felt like i was gonna die. , my nose would run also. I documented pics of my eyes before and 50 minutes ,,1hr and up to 1-1/2 hrs.after taking the 2 caps of damage control. I was shocked, now knowing without a doubt the cause of my symptoms. I stopped using these. Obviously, there is a problem with this product of some type, i dont want to speculate, but some type of contamination. Caused me now to have a severe adverse affect on my body and livelihood.. this was suppose to be an all in one support supp to help protect me and my organs. Instead it seemed like it was killing me. My moral of the story is simple. For all you newbies. Keep it simple . You do not know how you will respond to any one product. Let alone any side effects . If your taking multiple compounds , how will you determine the cause.
You wont be able to. So please, take it slow. Be safe . A little caution never hurt knowone. Rather safe than sorry. Thank goodness i know my body, and what i was taking and how i react to certain things.. other wise id probable still be sick and still be taking that support product. That i stead of helping me, was actually hurting me.. so when we give you advice and say test on your first cycle.. its not to be a smart ass, but just being cautious. We want you to be safe . That is the most important thing i would like you to take from this. Your safety is the most important thing. Always.

TweetSorry everyone, i tried to hit advanced to edit and seperate paragraphs, but i hit quick reply

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Originally Posted by macedog24

This brings up a recent adverse reaction i had only a week or two weeks ago dealing with an OTC all in one support product i started taking..
1st id like to state ive taken this particular product at least a dozen times for weeks on end. Never had an issue.
A few weeks ago one day ,i had gotten the chills real bad. Followed by perfuse sweating, shaking, and my eyes turned blood red. A short time later i would be sick to my stomach and throw up. I first thought i probable had the flu.
2nd day i was feeling better, so midway through the day. My symptoms started all over again. I felt down right dreadful.
I remembered taking my support supplement and a stim product. I thought it could be the stim product. I wasnt real certain.
Day 3, i feel great . That evening was going to dinner with the wife and kids. About an hour prior i took my all in one support product (damage control) . The only thing i took that day. I was fine until about 1 hr passed. We had just sat down at the restaurant ,i had the chills all over my body, sweating like i was on tren, shaking worse then clen. I was so sick, my turned to me
With this horrid look on her face. Then turned away.. i asked her whats wrong? She replied: she. Couldnt look at me , my eyes were blood red, i looked as if i was dead. So i asked to be excused and waited in the car. That evening i explained to her , what i thought has now been causing my symptoms.
I still was not 100% sold on this. So the nextt day while at work. I conducted a little test. With myself as the guinea pig.
I took 2 caps of damage control, marked the time. And waited. Not an hour had gone by and i was freezing, shaking like i was on clen, sweating profusely, within an hour my eyes ,started changing. By an hour and a half. My eyes were totally blood red.
My head was feeling groggy, funny, off balance. Another hour or so and i was sick throwing up. I hated life .felt like i was gonna die. , my nose would run also. I documented pics of my eyes before and 50 minutes ,,1hr and up to 1-1/2 hrs.after taking the 2 caps of damage control. I was shocked, now knowing without a doubt the cause of my symptoms. I stopped using these. Obviously, there is a problem with this product of some type, i dont want to speculate, but some type of contamination. Caused me now to have a severe adverse affect on my body and livelihood.. this was suppose to be an all in one support supp to help protect me and my organs. Instead it seemed like it was killing me. My moral of the story is simple. For all you newbies. Keep it simple . You do not know how you will respond to any one product. Let alone any side effects . If your taking multiple compounds , how will you determine the cause.
You wont be able to. So please, take it slow. Be safe . A little caution never hurt knowone. Rather safe than sorry. Thank goodness i know my body, and what i was taking and how i react to certain things.. other wise id probable still be sick and still be taking that support product. That i stead of helping me, was actually hurting me.. so when we give you advice and say test on your first cycle.. its not to be a smart ass, but just being cautious. We want you to be safe . That is the most important thing i would like you to take from this. Your safety is the most important thing. Always.

kind of off topic but it sounds like maybe it was crashing your blood sugar. all the symptoms you are giving are sounding like extreme low blood glucose. i am of course speculating but to me that's what it sounds like. something in the product is causing a sugar crash. reason i say that and i know this is completely off topic but, you were not getting hives, or any of the real tell tell allergic reaction symptoms. you did the right thing though and narrowed it down but damn that is freaky and scary for damn sure

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Originally Posted by guns01

kind of off topic but it sounds like maybe it was crashing your blood sugar. all the symptoms you are giving are sounding like extreme low blood glucose. i am of course speculating but to me that's what it sounds like. something in the product is causing a sugar crash. reason i say that and i know this is completely off topic but, you were not getting hives, or any of the real tell tell allergic reaction symptoms. you did the right thing though and narrowed it down but damn that is freaky and scary for damn sure

Something has changed ,or contamination. Blood sugar doesnt do this.
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