TweetI would have labs done. You can only go by 'feeling' so much. If your source for the PCT supps isn't around any longer I would look into someone more reputable.

By the way, what was your 20 week cycle...??? That is a bit long.

Tweet9 days is early but if ur pct chems are liquid and three years old they probaly exp

TweetIf you doubt it I would order more and keep takeing what you have until the new gets there. It will take a while for most people to recover from that long a cycle.

Tweetit is going to take a pretty good while for you to bounce back man. i wouldnt expect anything until 30-45 days or more to know if you are recovering. at 60-90 days i would get bloods done to see where you are actually at. some people go back to normal and some may never go back to a normal range. that's a chance you take

TweetI agree with the consensus here that it is way too early to tell if anything is working, but you should get bloods done as mentioned as well. I would also buy new pct products because it is your body and the vessel you will be living in for the rest of your life and for me it's worth paying the few extra bucks to be safe and not sorry.

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Originally Posted by BigBones

I would have labs done. You can only go by 'feeling' so much. If your source for the PCT supps isn't around any longer I would look into someone more reputable.

By the way, what was your 20 week cycle...??? That is a bit long.

It was mostly test e or cyp at 500-600 mg a week and prop at 350-400mg to kickstart during the second half of my cycle . Also , orals like var and dbol in the beginning . I'm gonna give it a little while longer since guns mentioned it may take a lot longer to bounce back since I was on longer then usual .

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Originally Posted by HybridTheory

Well if ya want some help,a stack of ctd labs testradex,whatever brand of DAA you prefer along with an Ldopamine supp and some nettle root extract,should have you at 100% within a week or two,more like 150%.Testradex has a low dose of bromo in it that would technically be suppressive at a higher dose but its more just like a synthetic natural test booster stacked with daa,and ldopamine plus nettle root.I actually feel better on a natural test cycle than on juice,but the results are obviously not the same.

I'll look into this , and where did u get this stack from ?

TweetNever chance your pct man. Get more and extend your pct bro. Thats what I would do. In order to measure the true success of your pct you need to get blood work 6-8 weeks post pct. If you do it during you can see if serms are legit but if you wait as I said you will see where your ultimate recovery is. Best of luck to you man.

TweetNo offense but 9 days is a horrible gauge of time. I would wait until 30-60 days and assess then. There is no way possible you will feel remotely decent in the first few weeks.

If your product is legit, give it time. If I were you I would extend my PCT and run it at least 45-60 days.

Clomid is the orginal HRT for anyone here who didn't know that. I remember seeing it prescribed in my early days in the medical field before Test Creams and Inj. were even a dream. Clomid at 50-100mgs ED should be effective in 6-8 weeks while controlling your estrogen of course

Do labs and have your prolactin checked as well..I wonder if that isn't high also.

Good luck man.

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Originally Posted by Wesleyinman

No offense but 9 days is a horrible gauge of time. I would wait until 30-60 days and assess then. There is no way possible you will feel remotely decent in the first few weeks.

If your product is legit, give it time. If I were you I would extend my PCT and run it at least 45-60 days.

Clomid is the orginal HRT for anyone here who didn't know that. I remember seeing it prescribed in my early days in the medical field before Test Creams and Inj. were even a dream. Clomid at 50-100mgs ED should be effective in 6-8 weeks while controlling your estrogen of course

Do labs and have your prolactin checked as well..I wonder if that isn't high also.

Good luck man.

Good advice. Roidboy are you using a Adex or Aromasin to keep estrogen in check?

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Originally Posted by BigBones

Good advice. Roidboy are you using a Adex or Aromasin to keep estrogen in check?

No , I already mentioned I'm using clomed and nolvadex for my pct and nothing else . My next pct I may run hcg with clomed and nolvadex .

TweetYa I did read that just double checking. I run HCG and Adex on cycle. HCG Adex and Clomid during PCT for 4 weeks coming off a 10-12 week cycle. Running full hormone and lipid panels weekly. Get labs brotha!!

TweetUPDATE! hey guys , just letting all those who chimed in to help that the pct is working . As usual I was expecting really quick results and thought the worst when it didn't happen . A big thanks to all those that tried to help especially mountainman , guns , animal , and even baby1 who chime in quite a bit and make this forum what it is .