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      This is a disgrace to our Constitution, the Republican Party, and to America in general. For one thing, you have to realize how big of hypocrites the Republicans are for proposing what is addressed in section 1034 of the bill. Now I know a lot of Republicans will of course support this because they support every single thing the party does whether unconstitutional or not. But this is completely ridiculous. The bill essentially gives the President unlimited power to declare war anywhere in the world and with anyone, including here in the United States. I already read section 1034 and encourage others to do so as well.

      My accusation that they are hypocrites is because some of the Republicans have criticized the President for not going to the Congress for authority to invade Libya. Yet now they are offering him unchecked powers to invade any country he feels poses a terrorist threat. In fairness though, perhaps some Republicans will vote against it, namely Ron Paul of course in defense of the Constitution. If this passes any president in the future will be able to use it to go to war with anyone anywhere and claim it's in defense of terrorism. It also allows them to go after American citizens on American soil. Remember that the Dept of Homeland Security a while back said Constitution supporters, conspiracy theorists, and military returning from war were higher risk for becoming terrorists. Just think that should be in people's mind when reading a bill like this. The simple fact of the matter is though that the majority of Republican voters will support the bill with open arms because it is to help fight the war on terror. So what about the Constitution. Nobody really supports that anyway other than a very small percentage of people. For the rest it is just something that sounds good, to say they support the Constitution, even though most don't even know what the heck it says. My intent here isn't to attack Republicans, but more or less to open people's eyes to the type of bills that are being proposed. I am on the side of Liberty, which means more to me than most I'm afraid, or perhaps most just don't understand how easy it is to lose liberty. I know a lot of people on this board care deeply about liberty, which is what keeps me active on the political section of this board.

      Check out the link to read about it and be sure to click on the hyper-links to go to the section 1034 portion. Also, you can do a search for HR 1540. For those of you who have Android phones, there is an app called Congress, which shows every new bill introduced and passed or failed, and the voting record of all politicians. Just search for your politician if you want to see his or her voting record. If you recall I have always said that I judge politicians by their action instead of their rhetoric. Well, this app makes that a heck of a lot easier.
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      Default Re: H.R. 1540 Section 1034 Proposed by GOP

      thanks js,

      imho, government will end up being exposed for lots of things

      i also heard there was a bill that limits a persons access to there own 401k during hardships, when i read that i was like wtf, talk about totally stripping freedom

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      Default Re: H.R. 1540 Section 1034 Proposed by GOP

      Lets not forget this Idiot President wanting Isreal to give up there land Now thats just fuk'n stupid. This Idiot makes a speech yesterday and it was horrible to hear this idiot say to Isreal give back the land. Isreal would have nothing and Blojama threw Isreal under the bus. This President scum bag is by far the worst in our history. Trip be more sprecific about the 401k bill.As for this bill yeah I agree only if it was over seas but if it hits home where I live and stuff like that then no I think thats wrong unless there is terriorist cells in side the USA but keep it over seas.But why is it that bad if we are attacked or something horrible is happening around the world we need to help if its going to help.But basicly its like that now if we need to intervine we go if something that bad happens correct. Also who proposed this bill how many Republicans and who. We need to keep this country strong and with this Idiot it isnt happening
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      Default Re: H.R. 1540 Section 1034 Proposed by GOP

      imho, the whole world is over 70 yrs of these two fighting, world wide government have other issues and imho they are getting put on notice, kiss and make up or when the next big problem happens the american people do not have money or desire

      regime changes in tunisia, egypt, yemen, bahrain, libya, regime changes are very messy messy messy affairs, and imho stated publically was where priorities lay

      i listened to the speech, we have put sanctions on in syria, israels more important problem

      regime changes historically take 10 years to work out and a whole region is changing at the same time, for governments this is majar domo serious shyte

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      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
      Lets not forget this Idiot President wanting Isreal to give up there land Now thats just fuk'n stupid. This Idiot makes a speech yesterday and it was horrible to hear this idiot say to Isreal give back the land. Isreal would have nothing and Blojama threw Isreal under the bus. This President scum bag is by far the worst in our history. Trip be more sprecific about the 401k bill.As for this bill yeah I agree only if it was over seas but if it hits home where I live and stuff like that then no I think thats wrong unless there is terriorist cells in side the USA but keep it over seas.But why is it that bad if we are attacked or something horrible is happening around the world we need to help if its going to help.But basicly its like that now if we need to intervine we go if something that bad happens correct. Also who proposed this bill how many Republicans and who. We need to keep this country strong and with this Idiot it isnt happening
      It's bad because a president is supposed to go to Congress for a vote on permission to go to war per the Constitution. You don't want presidents to have the power to attack anyone they feel deserves it. That is how you end up with a dictator eventually. Plus, you piss off a lot of countries. The founding fathers were extremely adamant and clear about this necessary law. But remember what I said in my original post, hardly anyone cares about the Constitution today, they just say they do to sound good. This is one more instance of it. And it was proposed by Buck McKeon, a Republican from CA.
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      Default Re: H.R. 1540 Section 1034 Proposed by GOP

      we live in a HEARING WORLD, and when u combine that with the Recency Effect, which means the most recent thing is the most emotional

      and now u blast it on 24-7 media, people have visceral reactions

      Obama dealing with

      a. arabian spring, 7 countries 120 million people going thru regime change

      b. pulling out of iraq, 28 million people, and next door, iran 70 million people, with 3-4 times the money and a history of jacking with them

      c. afganistan, 20 million people, and a mess

      d. pakistan, 180 million people, a few hundred thousand taliban that feud like the hatfields and mccoys that screws with a weak and inevective government

      e. a worlwide economy that's touch and go month by month, that has to deal with fukishima, tsunami, worst floods in 500 years, etc. etc. etc.

      and netenyahoooooooooooooie, who has 5 million people is mad, i'm sorry i'd be roflmao, and tell em, well have at it good luck

      3 weeks from now we will hear zero zippo on borders in israel

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      Quote Originally Posted by trip View Post
      we live in a HEARING WORLD, and when u combine that with the Recency Effect, which means the most recent thing is the most emotional

      and now u blast it on 24-7 media, people have visceral reactions

      Obama dealing with

      a. arabian spring, 7 countries 120 million people going thru regime change

      b. pulling out of iraq, 28 million people, and next door, iran 70 million people, with 3-4 times the money and a history of jacking with them

      c. afganistan, 20 million people, and a mess

      d. pakistan, 180 million people, a few hundred thousand taliban that feud like the hatfields and mccoys that screws with a weak and inevective government

      e. a worlwide economy that's touch and go month by month, that has to deal with fukishima, tsunami, worst floods in 500 years, etc. etc. etc.

      and netenyahoooooooooooooie, who has 5 million people is mad, i'm sorry i'd be roflmao, and tell em, well have at it good luck

      3 weeks from now we will hear zero zippo on borders in israel
      Personally I think Obama's stance on Israel is outrageous. He has no business telling them to change their borders. But who's he support? The terror harboring Palestine. Israel fought a war they did not start back in the 60s and the end result was they increased their borders. Well, that's how it goes when you win a war.

      Your estimation of taliban seems pretty high. According to Leon Panetta the Al Qaeda numbers only about 50 to 100, thus I doubt there are many more Taliban. Who knows what to believe though. Below is a video clip where he talks about Al Quaeda.
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      3 weeks from now we will hear zero zippo on borders in israel
      tell that to the JEWS who wont forget come electin time. This Idiot just lost the election even more
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      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
      tell that to the JEWS who wont forget come electin time. This Idiot just lost the election even more
      He has definitely angered his Jewish supporters. No president has ever done this to Israel. But I am not surprised at all. Obama seems to really have it in for them, not sure why other than he is a radical leftist. He sure knows how to piss off our allies.
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      He's going to lose Florida. Trip may say in 2 weeks everyone will forget about it but come election time Florida will have blast Blojama for saying that about Isreal and it wont go over well
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      you see this is what amazes me, every presidential hopefull on republican side slammed obama like a banshee, now it comes out George Bush in fall of 2008 gave exact same speech, and i also read on another website that this has also been the position of many isralie independents

      mitch daniels also said same thing i did..........

      how can republican pres hopefulls not know this stuff, and not know in 24 hours every journalists does internet searches and makes em look like rookies

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      Quote Originally Posted by trip View Post
      you see this is what amazes me, every presidential hopefull on republican side slammed obama like a banshee, now it comes out George Bush in fall of 2008 gave exact same speech, and i also read on another website that this has also been the position of many isralie independents

      mitch daniels also said same thing i did..........

      how can republican pres hopefulls not know this stuff, and not know in 24 hours every journalists does internet searches and makes em look like rookies
      What website was that? If they are independents then maybe they are not pro-Israel and are actually more of a left leaning bunch. I can't imagine anyone from Israel supporting this move by Obama. A lot of the leftist Israelis here in the U.S., primarily those in Hollywood, are not supporters of Israel the country. There is a big difference in being Israeli because your ancestors are from there, and being from Israel. The country of Israel is not happy with Obama right now from what I've seen and heard on the News. Also, what do you mean Bush gave the exact same speech? I am not saying you're wrong but please post the speech. I'm sure it exists on youtube or somewhere. Bush was a very strong supporter of Israel so it's hard to believe he would have supported them giving up their land. It was said today on the News that Obama is the first president to ever take this stance against Israel on borders. I really cannot think of any other explanation other than Obama is pro Palestine like all of the left wing radicals, and hates Israel. He has been hard on Israel ever since taking office. I honestly don't know how some people can't see right through this man for the radical socialist he is. And yes, he is a socialist. I get so sick of the Republicans not coming out and saying it. They dance around the term as if its so bad to call a spade a spade.
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