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      federal judge struck down the Obama administration's six-month ban on deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday, saying the government rashly concluded that because one rig failed, the others are in immediate danger, too.

      The White House promised an immediate appeal. The Interior Department had halted approval of any new permits for deepwater

      drilling and suspended drilling of 33 exploratory wells in the Gulf.

      Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."

      Several companies that ferry people and supplies and provide other services to

      offshore drilling rigs asked U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman in New Orleans to overturn the moratorium.

      They argued it was arbitrarily imposed after the April 20 explosion on the

      Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that killed 11 workers and blew out the well 5,000 feet underwater. It has spewed anywhere from 67 million to 127 million gallons of oil into the Gulf.

      Feldman sided with the companies.

      "What seems clear is that the

      federal government has been pressed by what happened on the Deepwater Horizon into an otherwise sweeping confirmation that all Gulf deepwater drilling activities put us all in a universal threat of irreparable harm," he wrote.

      His ruling prohibits federal officials from enforcing the moratorium until a trial is held. He did not set a date.

      The lawsuit was filed by

      Hornbeck Offshore Services of Covington, La., and company CEO Todd Hornbeck said after the ruling he is looking forward to getting back to work.

      "It's the right thing for not only the industry but the country," he said.

      Earlier in the day, executives at a major oil conference in London warned the moratorium would cripple

      world energy supplies. Steven Newman, president and CEO of Transocean Ltd., owner of the rig that exploded, called it an unnecessary overreaction.

      "There are things the administration could implement today that would allow the industry to go back to work tomorrow without an arbitrary six-month time limit," Newman told reporters on the sidelines of the conference.

      Tony Hayward, CEO of British oil company BP PLC, which was leasing the rig, skipped the event after coming under fire for attending a yacht race in England on Saturday rather than dealing with the spill.

      Shares of BP, which owns 65 percent of the blown-out well, dropped 81 cents, or 2.7 percent, to $29.52, near a 14-year-old low for the shares in U.S. trading. Shares of other companies associated with the spill remained low despite Feldman's ruling.

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      drilling moratorium was declared May 6 and originally was to last only through the month. Obama announced May 27 that he was extending it for six months.

      In Louisiana, Gov. Bobby Jindal and corporate leaders said that would force drilling rigs to leave the

      Gulf of Mexico for lucrative business in foreign waters.

      They said the loss of business would cost the area thousands of lucrative jobs, most paying more than $50,000 a year. The state's other major economic sector, tourism, is a largely low-wage industry.

      Feldman agreed, writing: "An invalid agency decision to suspend drilling of wells in depths over 500 feet simply cannot justify the immeasurable effect on the plaintiffs, the local economy, the Gulf region and the critical present-day aspect of the availability of domestic energy in this country."

      Tim Kerner, the mayor of

      Lafitte, La., cheered the ruling.

      "I love it. I think it's great for the jobs here and the people who depend on them," said Kerner, whose constituents make their living primarily from commercial fishing or oil.

      In its response to the lawsuit, the Interior Department had argued the moratorium was necessary as attempts to stop the leak and clean the Gulf continue and new safety standards are developed.

      "A second deepwater blowout could overwhelm the efforts to respond to the current disaster," the Interior Department said.

      The government also challenged contentions the moratorium would cause long-term economic harm. Although 33 deepwater drilling sites were affected, there are still 3,600 oil and natural gas production platforms in the Gulf.

      Catherine Wannamaker, a lawyer for environmental groups that intervened in the case and supported the moratorium, called the ruling "a step in the wrong direction."

      "We think it overlooks the ongoing harm in the Gulf, the devastation it has had on people's lives," she said. "The harm at issue with the Deepwater Horizon spill is bigger than just the Louisiana economy. It affects all of the Gulf."
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      Good call by the judge. He saved thousands of people from losing work.
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      That's crazy ... Obama is gonna file for appeal and I hope that he will win.

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      Why would you hope that he would win an appeal?
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      Do you ban driving for 6 months because someone causes a wreck? We have to get as much of our own oil as we can and not be reliant on foreign oil.
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      Obama is ging down big time. And after this genral stuff wait until you see his approval rating next week. I will keep saying it until i'm blue in the face. I said he will go down as the worst president ever and so far i'm right.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tn94z View Post
      Why would you hope that he would win an appeal?
      Because those drillings are far too dangerous. Look at what happened in Louisiana, it could happen again ... what it does to nature is a catastrophy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by millenium girl View Post
      Because those drillings are far too dangerous. Look at what happened in Louisiana, it could happen again ... what it does to nature is a catastrophy.
      Not really. They've been drilling like this for years. This is the first major accident that has occurred. I'm not making light of this, but it is not the big ecological disaster the media wants you to think it is. Oil spills/ground seeps are inheirent in nature. They are everywhere all over the world. Granted this is a big one, but the earth pumps a lot more caustic materails into the sea every day that nobody is aware of because it is a natural occurring process. Only when big money interests are involved does it become the so called disaster.
      These oil companies have safety protocols to follow. BP didn't adhere to their own policies. If they had, the equipment they used would have been flagged for mechanical failures. In fact this will serve a greater purpose as to "inspire" the other off shore drilling companies. To double check their own safety protocols. So they won't have to suffer the 2 billion plus loss that BP is going through.

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      Quote Originally Posted by millenium girl View Post
      Because those drillings are far too dangerous. Look at what happened in Louisiana, it could happen again ... what it does to nature is a catastrophy.
      You are way off here. There has been over 30,000 oil wells drilled in the gulf and that is the first disaster of its kind. The moratorium was a huge overreaction which is being used to push this President's environmental policies. You should do some research on the oil industry and try not to listen to the media, which has a bias that is against oil. If you believe in the moratorium then you agree that putting over 50,000 people out of work is necessary, or as the DEMOCRAT Senator of Louisiana claimed, 300,000 jobs in total as a result of stopping drilling in the gulf. I can't believe people buy into this nonsense that oil is bad, oil is running out, the environment is being destroyed, etc. Think about it, they have been predicting that we would run out of oil for more than a century. In the late 1800s they were predicting we would run out by 1900...lol. If the government tells you something you have to question it because it most likely is NOT true. And if my memory is correct, you had just made a post explaining that the president has done nothing good with the exception of allowing the Seals to shoot the pirates. But now you are agreeing with a ridiculous proposal to ban off shore drilling. Don't you get it, this President hates big oil and always has. Of course he is going to recommend a moratorium. I assume you didn't see the interview of the team of government science experts that gave the President their recommendation at his request, and he changed what they said in their signed letter to him after they had already signed it. Now they are speaking out saying they would NEVER suggest a moratorium on offshore drilling.
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      Another note to make. If the President gave a damn about the environment then he would wave the Jones Act to allow foreign ships and clean up tools to assist in the gulf. Instead he has turned down help from 16 countries to include Saudi Arabia, of which has the required equipment specifically intended for this type of spill. But the President imo does not want to clean up the spill in order to bring about a more severe disaster to push his environmental agenda. Notice how much politics is at play instead of finding solutions. Notice how slow the response has been to get this mess cleaned up. When Bush has Katrina he was viciously attacked, even though his response was much faster than Obama's, and he waved the Jones Act almost immediately, I believe it was 5 days after the Hurricane. Now here we are 2 months after the oil spill and the President is refusing to wave the Jones Act. I can only assume this is because of his ties to unions. Either way, a double standard clearly exists and Obama is has been given a pass on this disaster. It really is disgusting. Where are the so called environmentalists now? Why were they present during Katrina but they aren't now? I believe it's because they take their orders from the politicians and left wing elitists. But since their man is in office they are told to remain silent. They have no concern for the environment, that much should be obvious. It is all about transforming our government into a socialist form, and the environment is their means of doing so. They do so by convincing ignorant people to believe all of their fear tactics, thus creating a global scare that mother earth is at grave risk. I still cannot believe people fall for this crap.
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      people deserve to be respected like one. We all have our own views, but please dont call names and disrepect each other cause ours differ.
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      people deserve to be respected like one. We all have our own views, but please dont call names and disrepect each other cause ours differ.
      Well said.
      JS is right on this one as usual. To turn away the help offered reckless and negligent. What kind of thought process is obama using?

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      Quote Originally Posted by JsJs24 View Post
      Another note to make. If the President gave a damn about the environment then he would wave the Jones Act to allow foreign ships and clean up tools to assist in the gulf. Instead he has turned down help from 16 countries to include Saudi Arabia, of which has the required equipment specifically intended for this type of spill. But the President imo does not want to clean up the spill in order to bring about a more severe disaster to push his environmental agenda. Notice how much politics is at play instead of finding solutions. Notice how slow the response has been to get this mess cleaned up. When Bush has Katrina he was viciously attacked, even though his response was much faster than Obama's, and he waved the Jones Act almost immediately, I believe it was 5 days after the Hurricane. Now here we are 2 months after the oil spill and the President is refusing to wave the Jones Act. I can only assume this is because of his ties to unions. Either way, a double standard clearly exists and Obama is has been given a pass on this disaster. It really is disgusting. Where are the so called environmentalists now? Why were they present during Katrina but they aren't now? I believe it's because they take their orders from the politicians and left wing elitists. But since their man is in office they are told to remain silent. They have no concern for the environment, that much should be obvious. It is all about transforming our government into a socialist form, and the environment is their means of doing so. They do so by convincing ignorant people to believe all of their fear tactics, thus creating a global scare that mother earth is at grave risk. I still cannot believe people fall for this crap.
      they will use stuff like this to try and cripple the oil industry, and the couple of recent events in our coal mines to cripple the coal companies...lets see how big of a recession we will be in if offshore is banned and cap and trade goes into effect
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      they will use stuff like this to try and cripple the oil industry, and the couple of recent events in our coal mines to cripple the coal companies...lets see how big of a recession we will be in if offshore is banned and cap and trade goes into effect
      If a moratorium for drilling deeper than 500' is enforced on all off shore drilling to include the eastern coastal waters, Alaska, and the gulf, then there will most likely be a double dip recession. If we go into a double dip, it is quite possible to realize a much more severe recession that would closer resemble the great depression as far as unemployment numbers are concerned. A domino effect would be the outcome due to the large number of industries that support the oil drilling industry. Unfortunately, most people do not understand the complexities of economics. A ban on drilling would hamper businesses that supply parts and services to the oil drilling companies. In addition, businesses such as retail stores and restaurants would be impacted once job losses are realized. Auto sales decrease, air travel decreases, tourism decreases, tax revenues at state and federal level decrease, state and federal level spending increases due to unemployment and welfare benefits, etc. A wave of unemployment will hit all industries related to the oil industry and many more with indirect ties. The fact that we are still in a recession or beginning to climb out of one as some analysts predict (though I disagree because they use the GDP to determine this, which can be manipulated with ease by the Federal Government), the impact of a drilling ban would be catastrophic. As Mary Landrieu, the Democrat Senator from Louisiana warned, job loss estimates are 300,000 just in the state of Louisiana if the ban is enforced. If that number were to become reality, then the number would surely multiply at the national level. If 300,000 people are out of work in one state, then it must be understood how that would affect the rest of the states. We have to assume that a good portion of those 300,000 spend money elsewhere whether through travel, online ordering, charities, etc. As I said, it would be a domino effect, and one our country is in no shape to handle at the present.

      If cap and trade is enacted then we are also going to experience a double dip. Cap and trade would be the most catastrophic policy to our economy, and when combined with the health care bill, it would be detrimental. I do not believe America could prevent full blown socialism from coming to existence if the above policy is enacted.
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      people deserve to be respected like one. We all have our own views, but please dont call names and disrepect each other cause ours differ.
      I agree and hope that this wasn't in any way pointed at me. I always do my best to respect everyone's views, but I will offer my opinion and attempt to support it as best I can with a teaching style approach to bring awareness and encourage research on such complicated topics.
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